If you are talking about possessives... I believe we should use the possessive if therel... but that is all 100% personal preference for me... and I know it is... that is why I don't push to hard on it. give my opinion and that is it.

If you mean the thing on the Star Wars movies and MIB... even though it doesn't bother me at all to have it the way I see it on the front cover... I can understand what everyone is saying... which is why I said what I did about seeing if Ken would consider the 2 exceptions I mentioned earlier.

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What was wrong with staying with the On Screen title? Because some users decieded that they didn't LIKE a certain part of that, DESPITE the FACTUALLY correct statement that it appeared ON SCREEN.

The on-screen title worked fine until some users could no longer discern between title data and non-title data and insisted that we were required to incorporate non-title data which preceded, dissolved with, or appeared on the same screen as the title. You have yourself and your data entry theories to thank for the subsequent mutiny.

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t is ALSO factually correct that the Credit Block is NOT FACTUALLY correct in ALL cases.

You are using a source which is proven to contain inaccuracies in order to make that statement. You can't use an inaccurate source to prove that another source is inaccurate.

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The ONLY ACCURATE answer lies with an outside source

This is a false statement since the outside source to which you refer contains inaccuracies.

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but then we a precedence elsewhere for being ANALLY accurate right down to the peeny, regardless of what the Rules said. So IF it is accuracy we are after then we have to use the outside source.

The fact that we have to use an outside source for SRP, which cannot be determined from the DVD, does not mean that we have to use an inaccurate outside source for the title. Your logic is flawed. The DVD has the title data.

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What is my answer as a professional?

I ain't saying.

Invelos has provided the answer with their rules for title determination.

Quoting skipnet50:

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it is ALSO factually correct that the Credit Block is NOT FACTUALLY correct in ALL cases.
Skip

You keep saying this Skip, hence why I asked the question.
And I will ask it again....

can you please give me just a couple of examples where the credit block is incorrect

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Quoting skipnet50:

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What was wrong with staying with the On Screen title? Because some users decieded that they didn't LIKE a certain part of that, DESPITE the FACTUALLY correct statement that it appeared ON SCREEN.

The on-screen title worked fine until some users could no longer discern between title data and non-title data and insisted that we were required to incorporate non-title data which preceded, dissolved with, or appeared on the same screen as the title. You have yourself and your data entry theories to thank for the subsequent mutiny.

Quoting skipnet50:

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t is ALSO factually correct that the Credit Block is NOT FACTUALLY correct in ALL cases.

You are using a source which is proven to contain inaccuracies in order to make that statement. You can't use an inaccurate source to prove that another source is inaccurate.

Quoting skipnet50:

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The ONLY ACCURATE answer lies with an outside source

This is a false statement since the outside source to which you refer contains inaccuracies.

Quoting skipnet50:

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but then we a precedence elsewhere for being ANALLY accurate right down to the peeny, regardless of what the Rules said. So IF it is accuracy we are after then we have to use the outside source.

The fact that we have to use an outside source for SRP, which cannot be determined from the DVD, does not mean that we have to use an inaccurate outside source for the title. Your logic is flawed. The DVD has the title data.

Quoting skipnet50:

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What is my answer as a professional?

I ain't saying.

Invelos has provided the answer with their rules for title determination.

James:

That is YOUR point of view and from my point of view some users a simply too foolish to understand what makes up a title  and this was graphically DEMONSTRATED by all the mud that they dregdged up to throw in the swimming pool, like sort title, Anybody presents, etc etc, etc, and ya da ya d ya da.

What makes you believe that you have the ONLY valid viewpoint or interpretation, as I have seen from you too many times.
You are correct the DVD does contain the title for those smart enough to comprehend instead believing themselves snmarter than the data and the filmmakers. FYI your mutiny, as you put WILL absolutely destroy this database, but you aren't able to see it, instead you wish to lead all the lemmings right over the cliff.


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Quoting richierich:

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Quoting skipnet50:

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it is ALSO factually correct that the Credit Block is NOT FACTUALLY correct in ALL cases.
Skip

You keep saying this Skip, hence why I asked the question.
And I will ask it again....

can you please give me just a couple of examples where the credit block is incorrect

I have in fact documented several, richie, The John Carpenter titles  are a fine example, sine the Original hypothesis was that the credit block would give the Copyrighted titel and it does NOT.

Skip

Skip, pray tell, how do you know that the "Copyrighted titel" is the correct title? What if someone fills the form out wrong. Typos happen! As the king of the typo you should know that!

And what third party database are you going to use to find all these titles?

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Paul:

This has been repeatedly SPELLED out. It was NOT I who started this BS, paul. It was not I who pretended to not comprehend what makes up the title, it was not I that decided he didn't WANT to accept CERTAIN data, it was NOT I who attempted to CLAIM that something would mess up the sort(which was a blatant LIE), it was not I threw out all sorts oif other crap,nor was it I who CLAIMED that the Credit block contains the COPYRIGHTED title, which is dead WRONG.

I am willing to support almost anything, franklyt I prefer the On Screen because of time invested for the last two years, and that includes possessives as necessary. About the ONLY thing I do not support is ANYTHING which does NOT includes some form of IF THEN. There is ONE answer and  ONE answer ONLY. IF THENS do two things (10 the unecessarily complicate the issue and (2) they provide a way for users to manipulate the data.

I don't pretend to know more than the data and I am definitely not smart enough to reach any conclusions about something wh9ich I had no hand in the production of personally, but we do have users who believe they possess that level of brilliance...more power to them.

If you want to argiue with someone arguee with those tha5t started this childish game and not me because with me you have no argument nor does anyone with a brain.

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Bob:

I Care? I am not one who blows with the wind, and throws out sorts of false information, such as it will screw up the sort or what about Anybody presents, to mislead people. it is alsom not I who willingly will try to spin and pervert a Rule which contains a very simple prohibition. I am supposed to respect those people and believe they have some level of intelligence. I do see that they are very good at manipulating the opinions of others by constantly throwing the attention off on me while their own ideas are very destructive to the database. Why do I believe this Bob? Because if their idea, which was accepted, if it were VALID would not have resaulted in this discussion and at least one other as well.

Sorry Bob, you are looking at the wrong guy. When you are interested in having a discussion, instead of insulting and talking AT me, please let me know...I like discussion. But i don't like your game and the game of athers.. Let me point out, Bob that I did not attack anyone, there is no one named, but you did attack me INDIVIDUALLY.

Skip

I'll accept that, Bob. But you really are after the wrong person. I know this because it is clear, not just you and not necessarily you, it is clear that what I am saying is either ignored or not understood. By some i am sure it is ignored, it is enough that Skip dared to express an opinion but I think the majority simply don't understand and I will accept the blame for that and...PM

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