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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Nicely done, Hal.

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Why, Richie? I have said repeatedly that I have no grudge against anybody...I don't have the time nor do i wish to waste the energy on such unproductive practices. I only wish....

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Voted yes since it is as per rules... don't care if the title has episode or not so not sure if I will lock it or not. as for your comment about significant improvement... significant is very subjective... what is significant to one may not be significant to another... to me if any field is not as per rules and changed to per rules that is a significant change... size of contribution has nothing to do with it's significants.


If the person who has submitted the change has already said that he is not keeping it himself - then that sounds like an insignificant change to me.

You are correct that what is significant is subjective. But that shouldn't mean that we don't apply SOME sort of intelligence and/or common sense to this.



I didn't say one way or the other on intelligence or common sense (which like significance is different with everyone) I commented on you saying "We have already had confirmation that image submissions must be a significant improvement else they will not be accepted. I live in hope that the same attitude will be taken eventually with the main profile updates." I was saying you can't say what is significant... as it is different for everyone..

As I said... in my view significant is any contribution that replaces something that is not in line with the rules.. with info that is in line with the rules... no matter how big or little the contribution is... whether it is what some people would consider common sense or not... or what some would consider intelligent or not.

Can I see turning a blind eye to something that don't follow the rules.. if I think it is for the better good of the profile in my opinion. Of course I can. But if someone was to change it so it will follow the rules... I will vote yes and would not consider it insignificant. If that makes any sense to you.
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That's the problem with arbitrary changes to critical fields in the database.  Unforeseen consequences.

This is what you all wanted.  Don't blame me! 

I'll still take this over "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds copyright 1963".  That was even dumber.



I believe there was only a very minuscule minority who actually interpreted the on screen credit to include anything beyond 'The Birds' in the actual film title.

Unfortunately, that minority was having success convincing the sheep that these ridiculous titles were correct on the low vote profiles.  Dumb as your latest submissions are, I'll take them over the old system.

Not to say that you are dumb, I realize that you're trying to make some kind of point.

Personally, it's a matter of complete indifference to me.  After that whole "The Birds" incident, when I realized there were actually people who couldn't figure out what a title was, I locked everything down in my local.  If some things happen to match, that's great but this is primarily my database for my use.  I've gotten to the point now where I only accept a very small percentage of the changes submitted anymore.  Now that I've finally gotten all my cast and crew linked, most of these changes just screw it up anyway.

I will say that this has been darn entertaining to watch, though! 
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The rules clearly say "Episode descriptors are part of the title" and not if these need to be on the front cover or not. So everybody should vote against this crazyness with that quote as a comment.
Martin Zuidervliet

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Maybe title should be in the personalize section jast as we moved the sort title a few years back.

I have all my titles locked anyway.
Karsten
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If the person who has submitted the change has already said that he is not keeping it himself - then that sounds like an insignificant change to me.



The fact that I am not keeping it has nothing to do with its significance.  It has to do with personal preference....nothing more!
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You will all be delighted to know that I have withdrawn all of the Star Wars and Men in Black title changes that I submitted. 



......but not because they were wrong! 
Hal
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Maybe title should be in the personalize section jast as we moved the sort title a few years back.

I have all my titles locked anyway.

ROFLMAO, then what gets contributed Karsten or how is the title determined for the Online. This is actually unnececssary. All we need is ONE rule with NO if thens. THIS IS HOW IT IS DONE PERIOD (Notice I am not trying to define THIS). If YOU don't happen to like THIS, then you are free to do whatever you wish LOCALLY. We HAD a Rule that worked and had been in place but some time users decided that didn't want to LISTEN and that they wanted it done their way...you got your way.....and now look at what we have gotten. <shrugs> They tried to muddy the water to "defend" their position in various ways including throwing in sort title as a red herring. You got your way, children, now we ALL live with the results of your wishes, one thing I learned LONG ago in Db design is seldom does the majority have a clue (they may have a good idea, but they are very seldom capable of  the actual implementation) and this only proves it.

For Martin< Hal's contributions were within the Rules, as they are now. Anyone who voted No was in direct VIOLATION of those Rules.

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You will all be delighted to know that I have withdrawn all of the Star Wars and Men in Black title changes that I submitted.


The problem is not there. What we can see here is that the strict application of rules may be inaccurate in certain cases. I do do want to come back about reproducing spelling mistakes in overviews and credit roles, but I think it is time to consider that rules must be followed only as long as it doesn't defy common sense.
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And who defines common sense... what is common sense to you may not be common sense to me... Common Sense is different for everyone... depending on how they were raised to believe and to an extent the location they are from.
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And who defines common sense... what is common sense to you may not be common sense to me... Common Sense is different for everyone... depending on how they were raised to believe and to an extent the location they are from.


OK, common sense is different for many people. But when you write a letter, and see an awful spelling mistake in it, what do you do in normal life ?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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You will all be delighted to know that I have withdrawn all of the Star Wars and Men in Black title changes that I submitted.


The problem is not there. What we can see here is that the strict application of rules may be inaccurate in certain cases. I do do want to come back about reproducing spelling mistakes in overviews and credit roles, but I think it is time to consider that rules must be followed only as long as it doesn't defy common sense.


Yves:

Whose definition of common sense.....Yours? I don't think so, i know what your is. Sorry, Common Sense has no single definition and varies from person to person. What is simpler is the recognition by ALL users, thqatr ANY answer is going to result in some sort of "problem"or something they don't like, the ONLY place to apply YOUR common sense Yves, or mine is in our respective locals, that IS WHY WE HAVE A TWO TIER data system. The Online is never going to be a "TVDinner" that can downloaded and consumed by ALL, it is base elements for your dinner which we all bring home and season to taste.

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there is the difference though... we are not writing something.... we are transcribing what is on back of the case.

If I was writing something and spotted mistakes I would correct my mistakes... but if I am transcribing something someone else wrote I would copy what I see... exactly as I see it.

To me that IS common sense.
Pete
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what is common sense to you may not be common sense to me...
Then it is not common sense. Contradictio in eo ipso.
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But when you write a letter, and see an awful spelling mistake in it, what do you do in normal life ?

Did you write the overviews for the DVDs in question? No? Then that is not a very apt analogy. Its more like receiving a letter from someone else, then crossing out and fixing all of their mistakes. Unless you are a proof reader in the employ of the latter sender then that is known as being rude.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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And who defines common sense... what is common sense to you may not be common sense to me... Common Sense is different for everyone... depending on how they were raised to believe and to an extent the location they are from.


OK, common sense is different for many people. But when you write a letter, and see an awful spelling mistake in it, what do you do in normal life ?



Who wrote the letter, Yves....you. If you are writing the letter I presume that you realize it is YOUR error and have the ability to fix it. You don't have the ability to fix any letter I might send you, you can mentally adjust the letter as you read it and find what you believe to be a spelling error but you do not have the ability to go in edit my writing PHYSICALLY. I knew it was just a matter of time before you came back around to your favorite argument. The data is as it is, Yves and you have the ability to change it, LOCALLY nowhere else.

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