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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting mdnitoil:
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So, for the record, why don't you explain to us how one of the only reliable sources for the official title is not reliable?  Because it didn't match a non-reliable source?  That's like saying our profiles are wrong because they don't match IMDB. 


If he could explain it, believe me, he would.  But, he can't, which is why he has pulled out his standard response, "You just don't understand."
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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We will teach it to them again.
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The best thing about these threads is that they give me a heads up to lock the titles in question.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting mdnitoil:
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So, for the record, why don't you explain to us how one of the only reliable sources for the official title is not reliable?  Because it didn't match a non-reliable source?  That's like saying our profiles are wrong because they don't match IMDB. 


If he could explain it, believe me, he would.  But, he can't, which is why he has pulled out his standard response, "You just don't understand."

Agreed.  My subtle point is, if your argument is so obtuse that nobody can understand it, then you are doing a piss poor job of presenting your argument.

Frankly, I think the reality of the situation is that we all understand his argument, such as it is, but we reject it out of hand as nonsensical.  Kind of like what I do with my eight-year-old when he tells me the dog did it and I have to explain to him that the dog doesn't have an opposable thumb. 
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What kind of primitive dog do you have?!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantVibroCount
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Dogs haven't evolved?

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Dogs haven't evolved?


Freakin' hilarious.  Thanks for that.     
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Im actually not sure that making the front cover the only place to get the title from is that smart.

Because were going to get flooded with changes thet actually dont really mean anything stra wars with or without the word episode in them. does it REALLY matter NOPE. Things that iritate me more is that the same ones who flood us with that will later on flood us with MIIB 2 MI2-3 or JP3 or JP Ultimate edition and so on and on and on and on and on. I honestly think that the credit block is a better place to get the title because it does not have any graphic shorts for the title. as in the case of batman. use common sense many says, but the problem is that many does not use common sense and need rules that are strict and completely without doubt or hesitation. I will add the movies according to the rules but mark my words MIIB 2 will come up for voting many many times. same as star wars with or without the word episode. PINGPONG Forrest Gump style here we come!!!
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
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Quoting Fingerlakes Dave:
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OK,
Since we're going to use the rules, let's:
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Titles

Title
Use the title from the front cover.

    * Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these.
    * Check capitalization of the title.
    * Do not include quotes if they surround the entire title.
    * Include possessives if the front cover includes them, and if they are verifiably part of the title. If quotes surround the title in the credit block (generally on the back cover), check whether the possessive is within the quotes. In the absence of quotes to verify, check the font size used for the title on the front cover. Generally, possessives which use a significantly smaller font are not part of the title.
    * Possessive examples: "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride", John Carpenter's "The Thing". In each case, the portion within quotes is the title.
    * For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.
          o For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not
          o If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language).
      o Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break, e.g. "Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace".
        o For music and stage performance DVDs, use the performer or group name followed by the DVD title, separated with a colon and space. For example: "U2: Rattle and Hum", "Ellen Degeneres: The Begining".
          o Annual DVDs such WWE or NFL Films titles if the year is included it is part of the title and should not be included in the Descriptor field. For Example Title: Year.
          o The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the Front Cover; for example Alien Quadrilogy.

  THIS example is from the 'How to' on contributions', and uses the Episode number, etc to describe a Star Wars title.

  If I used the wrong version of a rule, Oh Well!
  It doesn't mean the reasoning was incorrect per the rules. 

  Now, either the rule is incorrect, or the example is.  Or maybe you need to read the whole rule......


I've already addressed this elsewhere, but, the logical explanation is that Ken changed the Title Rule from "Use the title from the film's credits" to "Use the Title from the DVDs cover", however, he did not proof  read the rest of the Rules to make sure that there were no other inconsistencies.  The example is simply a left over from when we were to take the title from the film's credits(which include "Episode").  A simple oversight on his part!

I am not sure why you are still arguing over this since all of the subject contributions have been withdrawn. 
Hal
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Frankly, I think the reality of the situation is that we all understand his argument, such as it is, but we reject it out of hand as nonsensical.  Kind of like what I do with my eight-year-old when he tells me the dog did it and I have to explain to him that the dog doesn't have an opposable thumb. 


That made me

That might be because I have an eight-year-old. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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