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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
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what is common sense to you may not be common sense to me... Then it is not common sense. Contradictio in eo ipso. how many people does it take to be common? if there is a whole group of people that think one way... and anther whole group of people that think the opposite way... how is both ways not common sense to each group of people? it would be their common sense... just not the other's common sense... so as I said... what common sense is not something you can use... as it can and will be different depending on who is doing the work. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | The original title of this Ridley Scott's movie is "Someone to watch over me", and it was released in France under the title "Traquée". 100% of references in all database are "Traquée", but on the DVD you get "Tranquée". Common sense says to use "Traquée"...  That is just an example... | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | So do the Rules, Yves. Or have you not read them. And the Original Title woudl Someone to Watch Over Me.  Do you not remember when you tried a poll on this and got hammered down fore it. Come on, Yves, use a little of your vaunted common sense. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | and common sense tells me that I need to follow what the rules for the online database... as it is not my personal property (the online Database) to force what I feel it should be. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is there a reason why the credit block (if available) was not used to determine all titles as first reference?
It appears pretty consistent, is available on the rear cover of every dvd you vote on so easily checked without 3rd party referencing, and the titles they show appear to be how the majority of users who visit the forums wish to have displayed.
Have I missed something perhaps? If there are some glaringly wrong examples can someone point a few out.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't know if there was any certain reason... but I do know that the credit block is not on EVERY title... I have several with no credit block what so ever. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
... as it is not my personal property (the online Database)... The online database is made for many thousands silent users who generally do not like spelling mistakes when they see them, and not only for less than fifty rule purists who think they are alone as they come frequently on this forum. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I don't know if there was any certain reason... but I do know that the credit block is not on EVERY title... I have several with no credit block what so ever. I hear you Pete, same as my collection especially music and tv dvds. Just trying to think outside the box concerning titles. I personally like the new rule, but would amend it to encompass the examples Hal has shown when the front cover is a logo or is just a marketing gimmick which is completely different to the cover block title. <scratching head> | | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richierich: Quote:
Is there a reason why the credit block (if available) was not used to determine all titles as first reference?
It appears pretty consistent, is available on the rear cover of every dvd you vote on so easily checked without 3rd party referencing, and the titles they show appear to be how the majority of users who visit the forums wish to have displayed.
Have I missed something perhaps? If there are some glaringly wrong examples can someone point a few out.
Thanks
Rich Richie: What was wrong with staying with the On Screen title? Because some users decieded that they didn't LIKE a certain part of that, DESPITE the FACTUALLY correct statement that it appeared ON SCREEN. What is wrong with using the FRONT COVER? Because some users decieded that they didn't LIKE a certain part of that, DESPITE the FACTUALLY correct statement that it appeared ON the Cover. What is WROING with using the Credit block? Because some users decieded that they didn't LIKE a certain part of that, even though it appears, it is ALSO factually correct that the Credit Block is NOT FACTUALLY correct in ALL cases. Gee do I see a similarity here...wow!!!! The answer is the answer. Whatever the ANSWER is IS going to cause problems for SOMEBODY, how do you solve it, for EVERYBODY...you CAN'T. The ONLY ACCURATE answer lies with an outside source, but then we a precedence elsewhere for being ANALLY accurate right down to the peeny, regardless of what the Rules said. So IF it is accuracy we are after then we have to use the outside source. What is my answer as a professional? I ain't saying. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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... as it is not my personal property (the online Database)...
The online database is made for many thousands silent users who generally do not like spelling mistakes when they see them, and not only for less than fifty rule purists who think they are alone as they come frequently on this forum. but what you have to remember... is the online database belongs to Invelos... and when they... and they only have the right to say what goes into it... and they do that with the rules they set in place. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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... as it is not my personal property (the online Database)...
The online database is made for many thousands silent users who generally do not like spelling mistakes when they see them, and not only for less than fifty rule purists who think they are alone as they come frequently on this forum. Yves: Stopi it!!!!!!!!!!You want to fix what you view as a spelling error...do it, LOCALLY .  You were beaten on your poll on this topic, GIVE IT UP ALREADY. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
but what you have to remember... is the online database belongs to Invelos... and when they... and they only have the right to say what goes into it... and they do that with the rules they set in place. Of course I know that. And I strictly follow the rules as I never contribute any more. And I see many of my profiles that do not exist at all in the database, and Invelos users that pay their program do not have access to those profiles. And I think it is not good for Invelos... | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Stopi it!!!!!!!!!!You want to fix what you view as a spelling error...do it, LOCALLY . You were beaten on your poll on this topic, GIVE IT UP ALREADY.
Shut up... | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richierich: Quote:
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I don't know if there was any certain reason... but I do know that the credit block is not on EVERY title... I have several with no credit block what so ever.
I hear you Pete, same as my collection especially music and tv dvds.
Just trying to think outside the box concerning titles. I personally like the new rule, but would amend it to encompass the examples Hal has shown when the front cover is a logo or is just a marketing gimmick which is completely different to the cover block title.
<scratching head> I personally prefer using the cover as well... but why not just write 2 exceptions to it... - if no title on front cover go to credit block... if no credit block go to spine. - If title is abbreviated or a Logo go to credit block... if no credit block go to spine. I think that would cover most all releases (There will always be some that don't fit exactly into the rules). | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why not go back where we started, Pete? On Screen, not saying I support it neccessarily but we do have two years of work based on the Screen Title. BTW Yves, thank you for your thoughtful, cogent and concise response. Very intelligent. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well Skip... There is one main reason I Prefer cover title over credits title... there is to many movies... especially in the bad horror I like to collect... that can have several different titles... and can have 1 title on the case and a completely different title on the screen credits... for example a friend just sent me a box of movies she didn't want anymore...
DVD Title: Hemoglobin
AKA for this movie is:
- Bleeders (Actually the production title from what I understand)
- The Descendant (TV Title)
so if either one of the AKA titles is in the credits... which is especially possible since Bleeders seems to be the production title... we will have a title that does not match the DVD. Which would indeed drive me crazy. I know that is what locks are for... but also believe that it is the DVD Title that is important.
Of course all this is the way I personally see it | | | | Pete |
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