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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Could we have an option to shutdown dvdProfiler after the backup. That way we can start the backup and just walk away. Or have i missed this option?
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,740 |
| Posted: | | | | I've never used it but I assumed that when you close DVDP and it asks you to backup that it will shut down after the backup automatically? | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: I've never used it but I assumed that when you close DVDP and it asks you to backup that it will shut down after the backup automatically? But it doesn't ask every time you shut down after making changes and i don't trust it any more David Sigafoos |
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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks for that it will work ..
Thanks David | | | Last edited: by dtsig |
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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dtsig: Quote: Thanks for that it will work ..
Thanks David I went through the steps from the help file but there appears to be 2 problems 1) The backup executes at STARTUP .. which is probably why they are called startup parameters. I specifically was asking for a SHUTDOWN option. If i make a lot of changes .. in order to get a backup this way I will have to SHUTDOWN and then STARTUP again .. automatically do the backup then SHUTDOWN again. 2) I could use the [FileName] parameter of the 'BackupAll' command in the startup.txt file BUT I do a backup every day .. sometimes multiple times if i am doing a lot of modifications. I use the date for the file name and if doing multiple backups i use -n for each increment. IF i have to use the [FileName] approach that means that ALL backups will be to the same file (at least it would appear to be that i haven't tried this because of #1 above). This is not good backup strategy. So is there a way to get a new backup filename with each successive backup? I hope that once again it is just my ignorance which is keeping this from working as I had asked. Thank you .. i am looking forward to the pointers Thanks David |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,740 |
| Posted: | | | | 1) Do not run the file at startup but execute it via the File menu when you wish to shut down DVDP. 2) There's no kill like overkill, don't you think? Seriously, your backup behaviours seems to be a bit obsessive-compulsive. But if you must, you can create a command file in a batch file like this: CreateCommandFile.bat Quote:
echo BackupAll backup.%date%.dpb > ExecuteCommands.txt echo Close >> ExecuteCommands.txt
Now you have a ExecuteCommands.txt file that contains the date of the day when you executed that batch file. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: ![Superior Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/3.png) | Posts: 2,217 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dtsig: Quote: 1) The backup executes at STARTUP Only if you call it there. You can also execute command-files while Profiler is running via File -> Run Command File...Quote: sometimes multiple times if i am doing a lot of modifications. As DJ pointed out, the seems a bit excessive. From the top of my head I see no possibility to fully automate this. You can do the Backup with a generic name and then rename it by starting a batch-file with renaming manually. If you are well versed in Batch-file-creation: see this thread for a batch-file that starts DVD Profiler, does a backup with a predefined name, down to a minute, and then closes Profiler. But that is really high-level computer-geeking. cya, Mithi PS From the Command-file help: "If RenameExisting is specified, the existing file will be renamed, else it will be overwritted." ... Give this a try and see how exactly is is renamed, maybe that will already solve you problem. | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki | | | Last edited: by Mithi |
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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: 1) Do not run the file at startup but execute it via the File menu when you wish to shut down DVDP.
2) There's no kill like overkill, don't you think? Seriously, your backup behaviours seems to be a bit obsessive-compulsive.
But if you must, you can create a command file in a batch file like this:
CreateCommandFile.bat
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echo BackupAll backup.%date%.dpb > ExecuteCommands.txt echo Close >> ExecuteCommands.txt
Now you have a ExecuteCommands.txt file that contains the date of the day when you executed that batch file. I guess I am just not quick enough .. i started this thread asking for an option on the BACKUP to shut down dvdProfiler when it was complete so there would be no hands on .. just start the backup and it would complete and shut down dvdProfiler. You suggested "1) Do not run the file at startup but execute it via the File menu when you wish to shut down DVDP." Sure .. i can add a "CLOSE" to the command file but that still doesn't take care of the naming question. Then you stated "2) There's no kill like overkill, don't you think? Seriously, your backup behaviours seems to be a bit obsessive-compulsive.". Since I have had problems with dvdProfiler AND since the first responses seems to be 'did you run the utilities' or 'oh it must be vista' I can only assume that the product is not stable in this environment (i am sure it is vista but that is what i use). So backing up is a good thing. Finally .. I do appreciate all the help but #2 is of no help. Why do you care why i backup or why do you need to insinuate that i am "obsessive-compulsive". I simply asked for a feature be added to the backup process. Since nothing that has been suggested works like the feature I asked for .. it is still a valid request. But thank you .. as i said i do like responses David |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,740 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dtsig: Quote: Why do you care why i backup or why do you need to insinuate that i am "obsessive-compulsive". I simply asked for a feature be added to the backup process Because I'm dealing in probabilities. This is a program designed to manage a hobby. I simply don't see Ken putting any programming effort into a solution for one user who wants to do automatical backups on a more frequent basis than "daily". And for the record: I've been running this program for close ten years now, first on XP, now on 64bit Windows 7 and I've never had any major trouble or data loss. Even if I had to do a database repair once every two years. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mithi: Quote: Quoting dtsig:
Quote: 1) The backup executes at STARTUP Only if you call it there. You can also execute command-files while Profiler is running via File -> Run Command File...
Quote: sometimes multiple times if i am doing a lot of modifications. As DJ pointed out, the seems a bit excessive. From the top of my head I see no possibility to fully automate this. You can do the Backup with a generic name and then rename it by starting a batch-file with renaming manually. You are right .. there is NO WAY to automate this. That is why i asked for the feature. As for the 'bit excessive' .. there have been a lot of request that i have seen that seem 'a bit excessive' to me but if a user really really thinks they need them AND if there is no other way to do the same think then the developer should look at it. The user should not be disparaged. But then that is just me. Quote: If you are well versed in Batch-file-creation: see this thread for a batch-file that starts DVD Profiler, does a backup with a predefined name, down to a minute, and then closes Profiler. But that is really high-level computer-geeking. I will take a look at this .. but it is not much different that simply adding 'close' to the 'startup' file i created. Then just have 2 icons. Still not a very elegant answer. But i will look at it. Quote: PS From the Command-file help: "If RenameExisting is specified, the existing file will be renamed, else it will be overwritted." ... Give this a try and see how exactly is is renamed, maybe that will already solve you problem. I will also look at this. But once again this means that the user has to go in an modify the file after the fact. If a simple "close" was added to the backup screen the the user could simply File->Backup-> modify the name and check the box and then walk away from the computer .. easy peasy lemon squeazy. Thanks though as I said I will look at the two options you mentioned. David |
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![DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrant](/images/PUD.PNG) | dtsig | Just asking questions man |
Registered: August 17, 2009 | Posts: 352 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote: Quoting dtsig:
Quote: Why do you care why i backup or why do you need to insinuate that i am "obsessive-compulsive". I simply asked for a feature be added to the backup process
Because I'm dealing in probabilities. This is a program designed to manage a hobby. I simply don't see Ken putting any programming effort into a solution for one user who wants to do automatical backups on a more frequent basis than "daily".
And for the record: I've been running this program for close ten years now, first on XP, now on 64bit Windows 7 and I've never had any major trouble or data loss. Even if I had to do a database repair once every two years. Wow .. every 2 hours. Nice <G> And .. " automatical backups on a more frequent basis than "daily" " .. it would still be nice for this feature only on a daily basis or weekly. But i get it ... I should just use it as it is .. So I wont bother posting any more. i not need to be called names Thanks Dsig |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 6,740 |
| Posted: | | | | What name? ![](/images/emoticons/confused.gif) Sorry for being blunt, I just wanted to lower your expectations so you'll better be able to find a solition within the confines of what we have now. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: ![Highest Rating](/images/Ratings/Small/4.png) | Posts: 13,201 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dtsig: Quote: to me but if a user really really thinks they need them AND if there is no other way to do the same think then the developer should look at it. I have to disagree with you here. If the developer did this, look into everything that 'a' user thought they needed, he wouldn't be able to do anything else. It's when a bunch of users think they need something that he should take a look at it. JMHO. As to the file name, I do believe there is an option to rename the existing when you do a backup. I have never used this feature, so am not sure what format it uses. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,692 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting dtsig: Quote: Could we have an option to shutdown dvdProfiler after the backup. That way we can start the backup and just walk away. Or have i missed this option?
Thank you David Sigafoos I have setup a batch file which runs a backup and I've set this to run as a scheduled task. So the batch file opens dvd profiler, runs the backup and then closes dvd profiler. I have this set to run overnight but if you wanted it more frequently then you could just have a shortcut on your screen which you can click on and it runs manually. I know it doesn't automatically run at closedown but its just a single click. in order to get round the names I have more than 1 - each with a different hardcoded name. And then I run the Monday file on a Monday, Tuesday file on a Tuesday etc. e.g. program: "D:\apps\DVD Profiler\dvdpro.exe" arguments: /CommandFile="D:\apps\DVD Profiler Command files\backup.txt" contents of backup.txt: OpenDatabase Default BackupAll "D:\Apps\DVD Profiler\backup-auto.dpb" RenameExisting Close | | | Paul |
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