Quoting Invisibleman:

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That's why I would like to see the option that you can import a movie's datas from an external online databas like IMDB.

You can do that using DJ Doena's excellent tool "castcrew edit2". In fact IMDb data is far more accurate for names' spelling than dvdprofiler which ignores voluntarily correct accentuation. Often roles are not in IMDb exactly as credited, but this is far to be a problem. And the great advantage to use IMDb names is a perfect linking, which is quite impossible to reach with names entered per Invelos rules.

Quoting Invisibleman:

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... they don't share this kind of information lesser and lesser or don't use it themselves.

The reason some people do not contribute any more is the fact that rules ask to enter wrong information. Using IMDb data is a major improvement for your local database, but since Invelos doesn't want those data, you have to keep them local and never contribute.

I believe there are 3rd party tools for importing IMDb data to your LOCAL database. I guess Invelos doesn't want to make it too easy though because then it would just end up in the online submitted by lazy users. As for why this is a bad thing, see IMDb's terms of use.

Quoting surfeur51:

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I think we should stop with this argument.

Yes, we should, as you are obviously not aware of the facts.

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A real name cannot be copyrighted by IMDb,.

"A" name can't be copyrighted by IMDB, that is correct. A list of names is a database and as such they can be protected under copyright-laws.

cya, Mithi

Invisibleman:

You cannot import data from an oiutside database for contribution, if you want to do so for your own use that is between you and that databaser, but the datya is NOT contributable perfiod, plain and simple. There are a whole host of reasons why this is true, from accuracy or lack thereof, to legal and financial. Our source for data as spelled out in the Rules are the ACTUAL film credits, listed exactly as you see them On Screen and in the same ordxer.

Quoting Invisibleman:

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I did read this message now, but it also say that if it is for local use, then it is no problem or do I misread. So only if you want to upload, then there is a problem.

Correct.  The only time there would be a problem is if you wanted to contribute.

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So if Invelos would make a note if you imported the text and such from IMDB then you would not be aible to ulpload. They can add a textfield that you can't modify and if this field is filed in then don't let this one upload to the public section.

Since there is no way for Invelos to know that you got the data from IMDb, there is no way that they can create a text field to indicate this.  You have to keep track of the profiles that have IMDb mined data.

I haven't found a DVD database that isn't lacking in some form or another. Each one has their plus and minuses.

For DVDP purposes, the DVD itself is considered the best and most accurate source of data.

If you using IMDb, and no other sources, then you must compare that data to the actual DVD and confirm that they do match. If there are discrepancies then the IMDb data must be deleted from the  contribution.

There are legal and financial reasons invelos does not allow the community to use only a single third party database such as IMDb.

There are instances in which data from these sites are allowed but then multiple sources must be used to help confirm the data is correct.

It is also important that if you do contribute data from multiple third party sites you document that data in the contribution notes. I provide a link for each site I use so that others can find the information easily.

Edit: I thought I'd better list a few examples in which multiple sources might be used:
- SRP
- Cast Roles that do not include that data on the DVD
- CoO
- Uncredited Cast