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UPC "Overlabel" thread?
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Like everyone else, I get lots of Movies where the UPC art is covered over by a label with yet another UPC.

Sometimes it's actually on the art.

Sometimes it's on the sleeve under the oversealing plastic wrap.

Sometimes it's on the oversealing / shrinkwrap itself.

So far, I've just removed that label and submitted a scan / profile based on what's carried on the original artwork.

I always check to see if this makes for a UPC / DiscID mismatch.

I'm certain this has been discussed, and if someone can point me to the thread discussing the approved procedure, that would be great.
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So far, I've just removed that label and submitted a scan / profile based on what's carried on the original artwork.
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This is absolute correct.
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I hate these, but they don't irk me unless they are the ones put directly on the paper cover. I've tried with those, and they are a ton of elbow grease and Goo-Gone to get gone, often times ripping up the cover along the way. Now if they are directly on the cover like that, I have to leave them as the first few I had like that came off cleanly after a while, but now they keep ripping.

What's most annoying is when the sticker has the same barcode and UPC as what it's covering, what's the point of these besides making my back cover look nasty?
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If it's glued directly to the cover I don't remove it because I assume that someone had a reason for glueing it on in the first place (e.g. printing error).
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The best reason I can think of is to mark a re-issue.
There's more than 1 Lions Gate title I own where all the dvds or BD's in the store would have a sticker glued on cover, yet the scans in database are sticker free and look 99% the same. Maybe those small tweaks and stickers help companies track product, it's the only thing that makes sense, esp. when it's covered by the same thing.
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I'm always focused on the technology. Could it be something as mundane as a store needing a particular ink and/or font to be compatible with their inventory scanners?
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I'm always focused on the technology. Could it be something as mundane as a store needing a particular ink and/or font to be compatible with their inventory scanners?


No.
As far as i know, every barcodescanner works the same.
They only check the distance/ how thick the Lines of the Code are.
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I have a bunch of Warner releases with UPC stickers on the cover over the original UPC.

Usually I find it's to try and distinguish the release as a "Canadian" release (as a Canadian rating sticker is usually present as well). Don't have any clue why they would do this. They're the exact same damn release.

I've never tried to peel one off though, I don't want my covers to rip, so I enter the UPC of the sticker (and so far, they've all already been in the system and I haven't had to enter any of them).
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I've tried with those, and they are a ton of elbow grease and Goo-Gone to get gone, often times ripping up the cover along the way. Now if they are directly on the cover like that, I have to leave them as the first few I had like that came off cleanly after a while, but now they keep ripping.


I've made a small science out of being able to get adhesive labels off of artwork and DVDs without damaging them, and on the whole, have been greatly successful.

The obvious objective is to get a solvent that's strong enough to loosen the label or adhesive, but weak enough so as not to remove the ink.

This is a tall order.

First, let HEAT be your friend.

I have a clamp holding a hair dryer in place for just this purpose. I hit the artwork from the front and then the back, and then pull the label off heating the back in one long, even, slow pull.

This will generally still leave the adhesive, but you don't have to fight the label any more.

You want a solvent that is designed to work without damaging the color of what it is applied to.

I finally realized that leather waterproofing might do the trick, and in fact it did.  It can't be too aggressive in doing its job, otherwise it would also damage the leather.

So anyway, you take a small stiff brush and work the remaining adhesive off in circular strokes, applying solvent as needed.

It may take five minutes per cover to get it completely loose, and you will have to wipe it up with a tissue to get if completely off, but it is worth the effort.

Another variation:  I apply the solvent to the BACK SIDE of the artwork, allowing it to soak all the way thru and loosen the adhesive.  It then removes much more easily.

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I'm always focused on the technology. Could it be something as mundane as a store needing a particular ink and/or font to be compatible with their inventory scanners?
A member of this forum once explained to me that four big retail outlets (like Best Buy) use different inventory control systems inside the DVD, and in order to make sure that the right DVD gets sent to the right retailers, they use different UPCs / artwork.

So you have up to four copies of the same title, just with different cover art for this specific purpose.

But imagine that you're short on one of your UPCs. What to do? The cheapest thing might well be to stick a label over top of one that's there.

I think that's the best reason this might happen.
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Use a Hairdryer and the heat will soften up the glue to a point where it will easily pull off with no residue... 
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If a new UPC has been stuck directly over the original then I leave it. It was obviously done at the factory during duplication if it's under the shrinkwrap, so that suggests to me that it's possible the original UPC was not intended to be used for that DVD, but it was too late to fix the printing or as others have suggested it's being used to identify a specific version of the DVD.
If the new UPC is outside the shrinkwrap, it's gone!
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Use a Hairdryer and the heat will soften up the glue to a point where it will easily pull off with no residue... 
I think I've done a million Blockbuster store labels, and I have no idea why, but only three to five of 100 labels will lift off and take all or almost all of the adhesive with them.

About 80 percent leave a clear / gel residue which then comes up with moderate effort.

The remaining percentage leaves a white adhesive gel. No idea why there's a difference.

For covers, the ink, paper, varnish, etc., vary enormously, often yielding surprising results.

If you examine my art submission for "Separate Lies" very carefully, you'll be able to tell that this was a Blockbuster copy.

The front bottom left has a very faint outline of a blockbuster label, and if you look very carefully, you can still make out parts of the barcode.

This is fairly unusual, but it is interesting to see that even with your best efforts, you cannot achieve "complete victory" sometimes. In this case the ink bonded so tightly with the adhesive that it "decided" to stick with the adhesive versus the paper.
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