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Yet another devider question
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGemini76
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Wondering how you would list these credits with the new devider section of the contribution rules.

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"MANUS: Pål Øie & Brio Flint"    (Translation: "Writer: Pål Øie & Brio Fint")


I contributed these under a group devider called "Manus", but not everyone agree this is correct. Sinse there are no other writer crew listed in this section, others feel the devider should be left out. I think we should either have the deviders or not, so should we here or not?
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I wouldn't use dividers in that case.

If it's in the crew section, I would say:
Writer: Pål/ /Øie [Pål Øie & Brio Flint]
Writer: Brio/ /Flint  [Pål Øie & Brio Flint]

Edit: No "credited as" is needed in this case.
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I would not use a divider either.
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I would propose never to use dividers in crew, for "roles" that are specified as such in DVDP.

So use it sparingly, for example in the case of companies being listed for specific functions (tends to happen mostly for Sound and Art?, I think we have rules about production companies vs. producers).
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So far in the crew section I've only used the group dividers for Visual Effects/Make-up Effects companies, a post-production sound company and for Song titles with the corresponding song writers.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGemini76
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Sounds okay, but from the Contribution Rules I almost get the impresion it should be used as often as possible.

But for Cast, should it only be used for groups like "Dancers" or "Japanese Cast", or should it also be used for groups like "Guards: name, name2, name3"? And if so, with the last example should also all of these have guard as individual credit, or no individual credit?
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Quoting Gemini76:
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Sounds okay, but from the Contribution Rules I almost get the impresion it should be used as often as possible.

But for Cast, should it only be used for groups like "Dancers" or "Japanese Cast", or should it also be used for groups like "Guards: name, name2, name3"? And if so, with the last example should also all of these have guard as individual credit, or no individual credit?

The new group dividers should be used for any group role in the cast credits and, no, there is no need to list individual roles.
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Excetp that in the example as in the question, the Guards still have individual names name1, name2, name3. In that case they should be included.
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Quoting Staid S Barr:
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Excetp that in the example as in the question, the Guards still have individual names name1, name2, name3. In that case they should be included.

I read it differently than you did.  I read it as...

Guards
Actor Name
Actor Name 2
Actor Name 3

...but you are correct.  If they do have individual roles, in addition to the group role, that role should be entered.
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when reviewing the cast list for "Superman" there is a gap/space before the first group, my question is should I leave the blue divider there to reflect that?
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No you don't show for gaps in credits.
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That's a personal call not covered by the Rules per se.What i would do personally...I don't know, but if someone Contributed it I would not viote No on that basis, nor would i remove it if it had been approved with it.

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Thanks for your input
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Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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No you don't show for gaps in credits.

Now while i understand your point and the logic behind it. Pete i don't believe the Rules actually back you up and a case could be made that the filmmakers chose to insert that space for a purpose and who are we to argue that.

"Dividers allow the segregation of cast and crew into logical groupings. Wherever possible, these groupings should mirror the film credits."

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Looking at the divider rules, I don't see where a blank divider is allowed.  It isn't an episode divider nor is it a group divider, so I agree with Pete.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Looking at the divider rules, I don't see where a blank divider is allowed.  It isn't an episode divider nor is it a group divider, so I agree with Pete.

It is neither allowed nor disallowed strictly speaking, Martian.

Once again
"Dividers allow the segregation of cast and crew into logical groupings. Wherever possible, these groupings should mirror the film credits."

Do we determine what the logical groupings are or WHY? I don't think so, we don't have that kind of knowledge. The filmmakers put in a blank space (Divider for our purposes),m do we know why or why not , clearly we don't, we can only say there is a blank space there, that is the factual determination or not as the case may be. A blank divider is as valid a piece of data as one which has actual data in the divider.

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