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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm doing a full contribution for Star Trek (2009) Norwegian release, and I'm having difficulties deciding if Gene Roddenberry should be entered, and if he is, what would be the correct credit. He is credited on-screen as; Based upon "Star Trek" Created by Gene Roddenberry Thanks in advance fellow profilers... | | | Berak
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Imho the only credit which can match is "Original characters by"
... but there are other users which have better knowledge in such questions. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I would enter him as OCB. The film is not adapted from another medium, it is based on characters from another work...the TV series, which Roddenberry created. Some people want to make it 'Created by', but that isn't correct as he didn't 'create' the film, just the TV series. Just my, unemotional, opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | OCB, unless he has returned from space to create the new film. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: August 4, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,441 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: I would enter him as OCB. The film is not adapted from another medium, it is based on characters from another work...the TV series, which Roddenberry created. Some people want to make it 'Created by', but that isn't correct as he didn't 'create' the film, just the TV series. Just my, unemotional, opinion. The credit: Based upon "Star Trek" Created by Gene Roddenberry is in every "Star Trek" film, and it is profiled as OCB in all the profiles except "Star Trek VI". There is an upgrade pending (submitted by me) with 3 yes and 6 no. Some people say that "Created by" is correct, not OCB, because no mention is made of characters, but of an entire universe; other say "Created by" is correct, not OCB, no mention is made of characters, but of an entire universe. I think that the only contibution of GR to the films are the original characters. | | | Updated List of Accepted Birth Years |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 940 |
| Posted: | | | | The Martian is correct. OCB | | | Kevin |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | OCB.
In this instance, "Created By" means that he created the entire basis of the world of Star Trek which all started with the original series.
If I'm not mistaken he's actually only credited as being the "Creator" of the Original Series and The Next Generation.
In no way did he Create the 2009 movie. How could he, he's been dead since 1991(I believe)?
The key words in the credit is "Based Upon" not the "Created By", all that's referring to is that he created the concept of Star Trek with the original series. |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Agreed with OCB. OMB is only if they specific story of the movie was adapted from something by Gene Roddenberry, not just setting and characters. | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
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Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,879 |
| Posted: | | | | I could definitely get behind OCB. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Every other "Based on....." credit is OMB unless it specifically says "Characters".
And TV is "another medium".
I can see why everyone wants to go with OCB, and I could live live it, but I just don't think it fits this credit. He is not being credited for the characters, but for the "Star Trek" phenomenon itself. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I thought that way at first, but the notes for OMB say "adapted from another medium." I don't think the films qualify as adaptations...which is why I went with OCB. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | As long as there isn't a crew entry called 'Verse God I'd go with OCB. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Hmm, looks like most go with my opinion. Wow, I think I'll getting better interpreting the rules. Imho it just can be OCB. Look at the rules and the notes for OCB: "Used for screenplays based on characters from another work, ..." + "For example ... sequels." -> I would say Star Trak (2009) is based on the characters from the original TV series which was "created by" Gene Roddenberry. And it's not a sequel, but a prequel, so this absolutely matches. |
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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks for the input guys! I've submitted as OCB... Keep on rockin'! | | | Berak
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