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So I did the research, the referencing, the cross referencing, and contributed two Blu-rays which apparently wasn't good enough for the database.

Did you do everything according to the contribution rules?

Or did you use third-party databases (like copying cast & crew from imdb.com instead of entering them as they can be found in the movie ending credits)?

I can understand your frustration when your contributions get declined after all that work. What did invelos say on the contribution page as far as why the contribution was declined?

It might be the screeners made an error in declining your contribution. If so, resubmit it with an explanation of why you feel they made an error and, if the contribution follows the rules, it should be accepted.

But, it is possible that your contribution did not follow the standards that invelos has in place to make the database as accurate as possible. Did you check out the rules before submitting? It is very easy to make a mistake if you haven't contributed before. Of course I've contributed many profiles and still make mistakes!   

One of the most common errors in contributing is a lack of documentation. It is important to detail exactly where you got the data you are submitting.

Another mistake, and one that will automatically cause your contribution to be declined, is the use of a single third party source (such as IMDb) as documentation. There are legal issues that make a single source unacceptable and therefore can not be contributed. Another problem is that a single source can easily propagate data that is not accurate and the goal is to make DVDP as accurate as possible.

The best, and most accurate, source of data is from the DVD itself. Data, especially Cast and Crew, should come from the DVD or its credits. If the information is not available from the DVD then you can go to other MULTIPLE sources. Documentation needs to be provided on those sources so that the voters and screeners can find that data.

Whew...after all that it seems difficult to contribute but it really isn't. It just takes a little time and practice to learn what exactly is needed in contributing to the database. If you have any questions just come to the forums.

Finally, don't take no votes or contributions personally - everyone gets them. When I get them I see what the problem is and, if I made a mistake, fix it. If I think I am correct and I still get no votes I let the screeners decide and keep my data local.

Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the database - every contribution is important. Good luck!

Edit: I see others got to the point as I rambled - Grandpa always said I had "verbal diarrhea"!

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If you have to sit and watch the credits of a blu-ray thats just COMPLETELY over the top. I dont have players near my PC. And whose to say whats on movie credits is accurate.

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I would have thought something is way better than nothing at all. Theres got to be a trade off between PERCEIVED inaccuracy and having usable data.

Sorry, but like it or not, the rules are there for a reason. For example it is a legal problem to copy data from imdb.com to DVD Profiler and contribute it. Without as pecial contract imdb.com data is "for personal use only".

And since no one here wants to see Ken getting letters from imdb lawyers... better have less but correct data instead of much incorrect data.

And believe me, it does not take that long to type in the credits for a normal movie (only TV series are a bit ...exhausting...). You say you sat down for one hour, checking and cross-checking databases... it normally takes only about 10 minutes for cast and maybe 20 minutes for crew when you just type in the credits. 

So please, take a deep breath, read the rules and be a valuable contributing member. The first contributions take some time because of the long list of rules, but you will get used to it quickly. 

I can only say I am contributing alot R2 Blu-rays, of course if you buy it first day when it is out, you are often the 1st one to contribute

cheers
Donnie

In addition to what everyone else has said, if you feel that the cast/crew information is just too much work, don't submit it with your contribution.  You can of course use that 3rd party info in your local db anyway - it's just not contributable.  And as you said, getting something into the database is much better than nothing at all - especially in a non-region 1 area where the number of active contributors is low.

It's a database of video discs.

IMDb already exists, why copy it?

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I've been a bit peeved lately. I recently added a lot of Blu-rays to my collection but it would seem that the prevalence of region 2 Blu-ray profiles in the database is VERY low. So I have to add them manually.

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Especially considering the contributors for Region 2 Blu-ray is low you would expect some need to get contributions in the database.

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Well, I disagree with you that the number of titles in region B is low. However, there are a lot of countries in that region. There may be few in your country. You'll find a lot of BluRay's in the UK, Dutch and German localities, for instance, which you could use as a base for entering a title in your own locality/country. Though there are exeptions to the rule (hence the request for checking), the items genre, year, CoO, cast, crew and studio's tend to be the same. Covers and overview, RRP/SRP, age certificate, release date and MC vary very much from country to country.

If you're stuck with few other contributors in your country, the burdon of contributions fall on those few. We can't really change that from across the globe.

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I used a third party database as my base level of information but it was cross checked with other databases. It took me an hour just to do one Blu-ray.

Invelos does not allow this due to potential legal issues.  Most 3rd party databases do not allow the wholesale copying of their data and Invelos respects that stand.

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If you have to sit and watch the credits of a blu-ray thats just COMPLETELY over the top. I dont have players near my PC. And whose to say whats on movie credits is accurate.

For Profiler purposes, the film credits are the only accurate source.  While you may think it is over the top, it is far less work to sit an copy the credits.  I know I have yet to spend an hour doing so.

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I can see now why there's a distinct lack of Blu-ray profiles on here (for region 2 at least). There seems to be a bias towards looking for reasons to reject, not reasons to accept.

I would have thought something is way better than nothing at all. Theres got to be a trade off between PERCEIVED inaccuracy and having usable data.

It's not about perceived inaccuracy.  Like it or not, Invelos lives in a litigious country and they have to cover their butts.