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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | I have a U.S. region 1 DVD-set with these ratings symbols on the cover: The left one is the Canadian rating, which is "PG". This is, however, not the Canadian, but the U.S. version. I thought that the right logo was for the recently added TV-rating system, which would be "TV-G". The profile is currently listed as "Not Rated", and I'm trying to change that to "TV-G". However, I'm getting a no-vote, so now I'm in doubt. Is this "Not Rated" or "TV-G"? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Does the film itself offer any insight, Tim.
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Woola: Quote: Does the film itself offer any insight, Tim. No. It's not a film, obviously - else I wouldn't be trying to apply TV-ratings - but a recent TV show season set. Having watched it, I'd say "TV-G" seems reasonable, but I really wouldn't presume to know enough about the ratings standards to make that call. In any case, there's no additional ratings information to be found elsewhere on the packaging or on-screen. Note that there's no mention of "unrated" or "not rated" either: the Canadian "PG"-logo and the "G General"-logo are all there is. I just wouldn't know what else the "G"-symbol refers to. If it's not the TV-rating, then what else could it possibly be? | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I believe that is just a general type rating used by the manufacturer. I always ignored them as there is a difference between the "general" G and the actual rating of TV-G. I would vote no on such a thing as there is no TV-G rating on the box. | | | Pete |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Since when do manufacturers put their own "general type rating" on their covers? What would be the point? Why would they bother? If that turns out to be the general consensus, I'll happily change my contribution, but I have to say that a guess that it's "just a general type rating used by the manufacturer" seems extremely vague - I've never heard of that before... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Well that is the only thing I can personally come up with. At least the way I see it... no matter what it is... it is definitely not the official TV-G rating. So in my opinion it is still a wrong contribution as there is no TV-G rating on the cover. So it is definitely something I would always vote no to. To me... that is making up data that does not exist since there is no official "TV-G" rating on the box so it shouldn't be used. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Here is what the official TV-G Rating would look like on the cover. If that is no where on the cover then I don't believe it should be used as whatever it is... it is something else. | | | Pete |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: whatever it is... it is something else. That's an opinion. Thanks for that, but it doesn't mean "case closed" yet. Since nobody has been able to come up with a sensible explanation for what else it could be, this logo could still very well be conveying the same "TV-G" rating. I've seen ratings logo's come in different shapes and sizes before. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Actually what I am going by is the official TV ratings graphics. That is a little more then just an opinion. It is obviously not the official TV ratings. And whatever that is does not match the ratings that is set in the program. As what you are doing is adding data to it to make it match. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Again: I've seen ratings logos and symbols come in different shapes and sizes before. You're arguing backwards: you feel this logo doesn't match what you're used to exactly, and so you decide "well, it must be something else then" - ignoring the fact that there really isn't a logical explanation for what that "something else" could be. Certainly the "just a general type rating used by the manufacturer" guess seems extremely far-fetched. You also choose to ignore that the set doesn't carry any mention of "unrated" or "not rated".
I know what the TV-rating-logo's usually look like. I agree that this one looks a little different, and I never claimed otherwise - which is why I included an image in my original post. The fact is that the cover doesn't have a "not rated" or "unrated" banner, but there is this "G - General"-logo that seems to tie in with the "G - General" TV-rating. As of yet, that's the best clue I have. I'm still willing to go either way, but I just can't shove one of the options aside as easily as you seem to do. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I Never seen it leave off information though. Where this would be leaving of the TV part of the rating. The TV is part of the official rating as you can see here.... http://www.tvguidelines.org/ | | | Pete |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Isn't it just the movie Rating G instead? Not exactly either, no. I'm guessing I'd get no-votes if I tried to change the rating from "Television - Not Rated" to "Film - G" as well. Especially as it's not a film, but a TV show season. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting Corne:
Quote: Isn't it just the movie Rating G instead? Not exactly either, no. I'm guessing I'd get no-votes if I tried to change the rating from "Television - Not Rated" to "Film - G", too - especially as it's not a film, but a TV show season. Yes it's a television production, but maybe the distributor of the DVD made a mistake and accidentally put the film rating on the back cover. On one of the posters on the MPAA website the G rating is printed the same as on the cover of your contribution. Personally I think that Not Rated isn't the case either. | | | Cor |
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Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,879 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm the no voter. The set in question is a season of the show Boston Legal. Like Pete, I'm voting no based on the fact that the logo in question leaves off part of the official rating. Like Pete, I believe this is something the manufacturer put on the box. Given the show's content, there's no way it would get a TV-G rating, if for nothing else than the alcohol usage and the sexual innuendo. At least one episode appears to have been rated TV-PG ( link). Since episodes are individually rated for TV shows in the US, I expect that's why many TV DVD sets here do not list a rating. Unless all the episodes received the same rating, they just don't list one I guess. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | The symbol on the left is the Canadian rating, the one on the right is the Quebec rating...the fine print should say 'General'. This is not uncommon for R1 US TV releases.
The rating for the R1 US profile should be 'NR'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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