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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbrimac5477
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i was just wondering if there is a way to tell when a contribution is declined what it's declined for? I tried to contribute info on "Van Helsing" and it was declined. it had like 4 yes votes and one no. the no was something like "MC should be this" without documentation or a reason why it should be. is the reaon it was declined because the no voter has more clout than the contributor and the 4 yes voters? it kind of makes the whole "voting" system pretty wack. it reminds me of "Hell's Kitchen" where Gordon asks one chef to pick two chefs up for elimination, only to go and choose whoever he sees fit to eliminate. i wanna know who is DVDProfiler's Gordon Ramsay!
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Skip voted no.  As for documentation, he has a wide personal knowledge.

(JOKE)
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To answer your question, yes, some users have more 'clout'.  Ken explained this a little while back, I will see if I can find it but, simply put, because we have so many 'rubber stamp' voters...those that vote 'yes' to anything...Ken instituted a 'weight' system.  The voters who vote both ways, meaning sometimes yes and sometimes no, with an explanation, are deemed more credible.
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Unfortunately there's very few generic messages you'll get if a contribution is declined. Most commonly it'll be about sources. I think that there are too many contributions to allow the Screeners to give reasons in each case.

As for why it was declined, it could be because of the "No" voter having more weight or it could've been a simple error on the part of the Screener.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Skip voted no.  As for documentation, he has a wide personal knowledge.

(JOKE)

I am less than amused, Samuel. No I did not vote on his Van helsing as I am sure brian will be happy to confirm. I have a copy but evidently not his copy or version.

For the record mine say USHV but that was the ORIGINAL release in 2004 and there have been a couple since then, I think, plus the BD.

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Even 20 "YES" votes mean nothing. If the one "NO" vote is correct the contribution should get declined. The voting system is to help the screeners make a decision, the the majority doesn't win or make the decision here.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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I agree with that premise DarkKnight and have said so many times. If the Studio comment by whomever was valid then it should be addressed

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Billy Video
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Even 20 "YES" votes mean nothing. If the one "NO" vote is correct the contribution should get declined. The voting system is to help the screeners make a decision, the the majority doesn't win or make the decision here.


agree... this is about what I was about to say. I will just add that it could have been a mistake... but then again it could have been that the screener agreed with the no vote. If the no vote was right it don't matter how many yes votes it got.
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And the people who consistently vote yes without even checking should have their voting rights removed.
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And the people who consistently vote yes without even checking should have their voting rights removed.


I agree. I recently voted "No" on some re-release covers and there were people who voted "Yes".
Very sad.
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And the people who consistently vote yes without even checking should have their voting rights removed.


I agree. I recently voted "No" on some re-release covers and there were people who voted "Yes".
Very sad.


It's quite possible that they didn't know that it was a re-release & was the version they have. I saw one some time ago where a rather well known user voted "Yes" to a re-release cover and against the majority of "No" votes it was accepted. I resubmitted the original explaining the situation & they voted "Yes" to correcting. Before you say it, it wasn't a user who votes "Yes" to everything

I do however think that users who blindly vote for everything regardless of quality should at the very least have voting rights revoked for a short period.
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Well personally I'm still getting used to the rules so when voting I'm sure I may have made the odd mistake but I'm glad it's been pointed out so I don't repeat it.  I've only added about 2500 of my 4000 releases so far and it's a big task so I'm happy I'm finding out through some 'tough love' in some instances now.  Of course I am keeping the rules open whenever I do something and I have PM'ed someone when I have been unsure (marcel nand he gave a me a great response bu the thing was accepted before I could vote) but the big problem, and the answer to every single quarrel between the world and Skip is the interpretation of the rules.
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Note that sometimes a valid NO vote will not get the contribution declined if the overall value of the update is greater than the incorrect part.

Though improper documentation such as not specifying your sources can get your perfect contribution declined with 100/0 yes votes.
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For the record, at least looking at my version of this film, the proper MC is Universal Studios Home Video.  How do I come to this conclusion?  If you pop the DVD in your player, it comes up with the usual legal nonsense about how the views and opinions expressed in the interviews do not reflect the opinons of Universal Studios Home Video.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Mine agrees with you, Unicus, at least based on my Cover Art.

Skip
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Since when is the responsibilty of the voter to provide documentation.  With limited space to write comments, documentation is rather difficult to provide.

The question is this, was the no vote correct in it's comment?

Did you look at the contribution and see if the no voter was correct?

By the way, I voted no.  And my source was the dvd and the cover.
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