I totally agree with Skip on this one.

The rules even state: For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film

The very fact that ADR people are NOT listed with the other members of the cast means they should not be included.

I concur, they are crew and don't belong in cast (except locally).

Quoting goblinsdoitall:

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Why exactly is someone who is giving a "Voice only"-performance not a member of the cast?

I'm afraid there's no answer to that one. Therefore, IMHO, they ARE members of the cast. They are, indeed, usually actors with several other credits in the database, often both voice-only and "regular" ones. Sure, we could go ahead and argue for pages over the level of importance of their job for the film, but I'd rather not. The fact of the matter remains that they did perform on the movie. Since these people also acted in various other films in my database, it seems only natural to track their voice-only credits as well. If you go looking for resumé's for some of these people, you'll find they do the same thing.

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I can still remember the discussion about "appearances" which were credited in the crew section and here it was widely accepted that these should belong to the cast. Where is the difference?

There is none. And everybody here knows that perfectly well, which is why I predict this particular aspect will be completely ignored by everyone else here - except maybe for the few that are willing to throw that data overboard as well. 

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there were even some quite well known actors appearing in this list.

Indeed, which is exactly why it's interesting data to have. Also, it's a lot less work for the few users that don't like to have it to remove them from their local profiles, than it is for the rest of the userbase to have to add them all in themselves.

Quoting Pantheon:

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I totally agree with Skip on this one.

The rules even state: For the purposes of this section we define "standard" film credits as those where all credited actors involved are listed together in a single section at the end of the film

The very fact that ADR people are NOT listed with the other members of the cast means they should not be included.

I completely agree. If they're not credited with the main actors, they should be left out.

Quoting goblinsdoitall:

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Why exactly is someone who is giving a "Voice only"-performance not a member of the cast?

I think it's because their voices are merrily borrowed to replace certain lines (dubbing) of the actual cast members as opposed to "Additional Voices" which are cast who are specifficaly selected for a complete role. But although they aren't really cast I agree with Tim it wouldn't hurt to add them, because as with uncredited "actors" they also "perform" a part where the first one can only be heard and the last one can only be seen.

I would leave them out. If we keep going like this, in a few years we'll be entering the complete credits of a movie, and we have a full day's work to create just one profile. For me, the rule is fine as it is. Just the main cast.

Could you give me a few examples of these ADRs?

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Sorry - don't know how else to properly explain it...