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| Registered: January 5, 2008 |  Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is the production year the year of its original release in the originating country?
Norway tends to be and have been late with their releases. Sometimes a year later.
The rule state that it should be the same year as the original theatrical release, what Im unsure about if its the US theatrical release date, or the Norwegian one. |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,879 |
| | Posted: | | | | Production year should be the year of the original theatrical release. So if the original release is in Norway, then you would use that release for the year. If the original release was in the US, then you would use that release - and so on, and so forth for whichever country the film in question was originally released in. Hope that helps.  | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is how I understand it as well. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: January 5, 2008 | | Posts: 61 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes, thank you that does help.
Christmas releases in the US usually end up being January releases in Norway.
So now I know that its 2007, not 2008 and so on. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | What I would really like to see here, is a rule change. Theatrical release date can't be found anywhere on the disk. So you need a 3rd party source to obtain it. Not a big issue for new movies, but how do we know the release date for the old movies is correct.
Another issue, if a US movie gets shown at a European film festival before it is shown in the US. Do we take the EU date or the US date ???
The copyright date, on the otherhand, is available in the credits, and leaves no room for interpretation.
So in my humble opinion, that's the date we should use. | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
What I would really like to see here, is a rule change. Theatrical release date can't be found anywhere on the disk. So you need a 3rd party source to obtain it. Not a big issue for new movies, but how do we know the release date for the old movies is correct.
Another issue, if a US movie gets shown at a European film festival before it is shown in the US. Do we take the EU date or the US date ???
The copyright date, on the otherhand, is available in the credits, and leaves no room for interpretation.
So in my humble opinion, that's the date we should use. I agree! We should use the copyright year found on the disc. Would like to see a change in the rules for this, indeed! | | | Berak
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
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Another issue, if a US movie gets shown at a European film festival before it is shown in the US. Do we take the EU date or the US date ??? This has been asked before and the answer is in the rules..."Enter the year of the original theatrical release." A film festival showing is not the same as a theatrical release. Quote:
The copyright date, on the otherhand, is available in the credits, and leaves no room for interpretation.
So in my humble opinion, that's the date we should use. This has been suggested before. Personally, I prefer the theatrical release date. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: April 4, 2007 |  Posts: 882 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd prefer both... | | | | - Jan |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | With the current rules we run into oddities like Prozac Nation. What is the production year for that movie? It was filmed in 2000, shown at the Toronto Film Festival in 2001, got a TV premiere in Turkey in 2002, had it's theatrical release in 2003 in Norway and finally released on TV in 2005 in the USA (the CoO). It feels wrong to set the production year to 2003 as the rules now say that we should. | | | 
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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The copyright date, on the otherhand, is available in the credits, and leaves no room for interpretation.
So in my humble opinion, that's the date we should use.
This has been suggested before. Personally, I prefer the theatrical release date. Then the field should be called that in my opinion. Production Date isn't necessarily the same as original theatrical date. As reybr suggests, sometimes it's some years before a title may get a theatrical release. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting screwed: Quote:
Is the production year the year of its original release in the originating country? No, it's the year of the first release world wide aka world premiere. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
Another issue, if a US movie gets shown at a European film festival before it is shown in the US. Do we take the EU date or the US date ??? If the festival has been public, then yes, we take the festival year. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,293 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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Another issue, if a US movie gets shown at a European film festival before it is shown in the US. Do we take the EU date or the US date ???
If the festival has been public, then yes, we take the festival year. AIUI, as Unicus says above, after much discussion it was agreed we do NOT include festivals, only a 'general release' | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
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Another issue, if a US movie gets shown at a European film festival before it is shown in the US. Do we take the EU date or the US date ???
If the festival has been public, then yes, we take the festival year.
AIUI, as Unicus says above, after much discussion it was agreed we do NOT include festivals, only a 'general release' We did not agree.  If the festival has been public (meaning everybody could have bought a ticket), it has been a general release. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Theatrical Release means a release to the general public through the normal distribution chains, not to a select group of elites at some festival somewhere. Next thing you know we'll be using the date the director had a private showing of the film in his home theater!  Personally, I'd prefer to use the copyright date in the film credits. It is the only absolutely concrete data source and is documented on the DVD itself (in most cases). | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Next thing you know we'll be using the date the director had a private showing of the film in his home theater!
That's why I have said "public festival", where everybody and not just the elites can buy a ticket. Quote:
Personally, I'd prefer to use the copyright date in the film credits. It is the only absolutely concrete data source and is documented on the DVD itself (in most cases). I agree. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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