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Registered: December 13, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 334 |
| Posted: | | | | Hi everyone,
Quite a few of my DVD's have profiles with a € 0 SRP. Obviously when I buy them it's pretty simple to find the SRP at the time of purchase. However, I regularly buy "old" titles that were originally released 10 years ago. Does anyone know of a site where I could find the original SRP? Specifically for the Netherlands?
Also : is it acceptable to use the SRP of another locality if none can be found for my locality? (Because sometimes a profile for another region does have the SRP included while the Dutch profile doesn't.)
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting SCG63: Quote: Quite a few of my DVD's have profiles with a € 0 SRP. Obviously when I buy them it's pretty simple to find the SRP at the time of purchase. However, I regularly buy "old" titles that were originally released 10 years ago. Does anyone know of a site where I could find the original SRP? Specifically for the Netherlands? I'd love to have a better answer for you, but I'm afraid that it's often very hard, bordering on impossible, to find this out for such older titles... I sometimes dig around various DVD-websites and their forums to find old news items or forum posts about these titles, dating back to around the original releasedate, hoping that one of them might mention an SRP. But more often than not, it just can't be found. Quote: Also : is it acceptable to use the SRP of another locality if none can be found for my locality? (Because sometimes a profile for another region does have the SRP included while the Dutch profile doesn't.) I'm afraid not... |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quote: Also : is it acceptable to use the SRP of another locality if none can be found for my locality? (Because sometimes a profile for another region does have the SRP included while the Dutch profile doesn't.) I'm afraid not... I was thinking about this, not being part of the Euro (yet!) I don't know if it works this way. But does each region still get it's own RRP even though the currency is the same? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I suspect yes, north. The bigger problem is that SRP(RRP) Original or current, that of course depends on any number of possible factors.
One thing that just occurred to me. Thsi si a very real possibility. Suppose a user went into and bought some pre-viewed DVDs, they were part of a Boxset Originally and NEVER released stand-alone. they would have NO SRP, nor could one be obtained, NOR should one be entered into the database.
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Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,807 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I was thinking about this, not being part of the Euro (yet!) I don't know if it works this way. But does each region still get it's own RRP even though the currency is the same? I never actually verified that, but I'd guess so. Different countries, different markets, different RRPs. | | | -- Enry |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting White Pongo, Jr.: Quote: Quoting northbloke:
Quote: I was thinking about this, not being part of the Euro (yet!) I don't know if it works this way. But does each region still get it's own RRP even though the currency is the same?
I never actually verified that, but I'd guess so. Different countries, different markets, different RRPs. I'd say certainly so, largely due to different VAT rates. Not saying that countries with the same VAT will have the same RRP because they may also have their own taxes on DVD/Blu-ray/etc... |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 3,830 |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting [u]Giga Wizard: Quote: google on the ean(barcode) and adviesprijs if your lucky you find an original release SRP If you're very lucky, that is. You will mostly find current SRP's that way, not original ones. |
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Registered: May 12, 2008 | Posts: 49 |
| Posted: | | | | Some web-sites like Amazon UK, TheHut and find-dvd.co.uk for UK releases often show original SRP/RRP. But be warned that if there has been a re-release using same UPC (often at a lower price) then this SRP/RRP will also be updated to reflect the newer re-release.
In a perfect world we would all contribute new profiles with the SRP on day of release to provide precise info at time of release, but sadly this doesn't work for older releases. I just use a few sites, like the ones above and if they seem to agree and match then I provide all links when contributing. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I was thinking about this, not being part of the Euro (yet!) I don't know if it works this way. But does each region still get it's own RRP even though the currency is the same? Yes! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 485 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting northbloke:
Quote: I was thinking about this, not being part of the Euro (yet!) I don't know if it works this way. But does each region still get it's own RRP even though the currency is the same? Yes! Most international distributors hardly recognise the European Union as a single market for retail customers. Unless for their own benefit: making the same DVD to be released in multiple countries. At different dates and different SRP/RRP. Also, especially in the art house and not-big-Hollywood companies area, movie producers have to sell their product to local (read: country specific) distributors. That means in adjacent countries within the EU not only release dates and SRP/RRP differ, but also packaging, supplements, audio tracks, a bluray version-or-not etc. In countries like France and Germany it doesn't help help that the public majority requires a redubbed movie, adding to cost and "special cases". Contrary what was posted before, I do not think it is much related to different sales tax rates (VAT). Unlike the USA, prices must be advertised in the EU sales tax inclusive, and the RRP/SRP tends to show "sweet spots" like 9.99, 15.99, 24.99 etc. The sad thing is, it actually works this way both ways. The majority of consumers buy rarely across the border. Only the community on-line has a good overview here. Case in point: euro coins differ from country to country on one side of the coin. Even paper money had country specific serial numbers. So the diffusion of money into different countries was trackable. It was tracked by mulitple parties and guess what? The diffusion of coins and paper money was A LOT LESS than predicted -- except for the really small countries in the EU. | | | Eric
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 485 |
| Posted: | | | | On the original question:
European Union regulators are very keen to assure a free common market. They really watch out for any price fixing effort, be that by the manufacturer or any (non-retailing) distributor. A manufacturer or distributor must take great care that if he publishes a SRP/RRP, nobody perceives it as mandatory.
The result is that any SRP/RRP in the EU countries is fairly useless. Prices are dictated by retailer competition and, of course, the popularity of a title. The net result is that many retailers do not bother to publish a SRP/RRP and even if one is shown, it may be "fake".
Main street retailers rarely show the SRP/RRP. Only some online retailers do, AFAIK. For Steve's locality, the Netherlands, I find www.bol.com a useful site almost always publishing release date and RRP. But it always current, not the first ever release. And some RRP's border on the unbelievable...
For us in the EU it means we shouldn't attach too much value to SRP/RRP. | | | Eric
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Registered: December 13, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 334 |
| Posted: | | | | Looks like I will just have to leave a lot of €0 entries in the database then. (Maybe I'll approximate the original SRP in my local collection to prevent the SRP-statistics from being too messed up.) Thanks everyone for your replies! Steve |
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