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Do they get credited as Visual Effects Supervisor in Profiler or not?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMakoDeth
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The movie is "Starship Troopers".. and the credits say:

Creature Visual Effects Supervisor - Phil Tippett
Spaceship Visual Effects Supervisor - Scott E. Anderson

ILM Visual Effects Supervisor - Scott Squires
Boss Film Visual Effects Supervisor - Jim Rygiel


Another Question about Visual Effects Crew... Why do Designer, Supervisor and Director get credited and Producer not? Sometimes these are the only ones mentioned... 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMakoDeth
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Ok, I missed the money aspect for prodcuer 

As I'm already on it... "Starship Troopers" again...

"Asteroid Grazing Visual Effects Sequence by
Boss Film Studios

Visual Effects Supervisor - David M. Jones
Digital Effects Supervisor - Thomas Dadras
...
Visual Effects Producer - Gayle Busby
..."

I saw this always more on the effects-making and not money side 
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Quoting MakoDeth:
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The movie is "Starship Troopers".. and the credits say:

Creature Visual Effects Supervisor - Phil Tippett
Spaceship Visual Effects Supervisor - Scott E. Anderson

ILM Visual Effects Supervisor - Scott Squires
Boss Film Visual Effects Supervisor - Jim Rygiel



I wouldn't credit them. They each only worked on parts of the movie, making them kinda like unit crew and we don't do unit crew.

But that's just me. I wouldn't add them myself but I wouldn't vote against the change either.

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Quoting reybr:
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They each only worked on parts of the movie...

By that definition we could drop all the Sound guys (only worked on sound), the Music guys, all the Art people...

We could reduce the credits to a nice neat Director/Writers/Producers/Film Editors.  I like it!     

Edit: i personally have no issue with the credits proposed.
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According to the rules they are 'Individual Credits' and Visual Effects Supervisors is one of the listed allowed credits to be entered.

The only thing not allowed to be entered into the credits is the Company itself, so ILM or Boss Film Studios can't be credited (well they could, but be kept local).



If these were to be treated as Unit Crew then should we carry this over to the Sound Crew as well? Because quite a few Sound Crew are sometimes listed under a company header as well. I can think of one right off of my head, Skywalker Sound.

If we were to treat any crew listed under a Company Header then many of the Sound Crew may have to be removed because I have seen quite a few listed under companies such as Skywalker Sound.
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My point of view:
No credits for sub-companies who worked on the film. Especially concerning VFX Supervisors there is almost always at least one Supervisor listed at the beginning of the credits as main person directly for the production of the movie. The other (sometimes a lot!) VFX Supervisors are listed at the end of the credits under the name of their FX company and don't have that main responsability.
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Quoting Giga Wizard:
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the rules (weblink) only exclude the company names and don't specify leading only

Well, that just depends on how you interpret the meaning of "individual credits". I understand how you see it, but one could just as well argue that this specifically excludes additional VFX credits under such headers in favour of the lone ("individual") overall VFX credit.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdavid mann
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Well - then have fun with the crediting 10 or more VFX Supervisors as seen in some newer FX movies...


Oh - not to forget all the make-up artists...
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I did the profile for the Special Edition of the film a while ago and this is what the art crew portion looks like.


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Allan Cameron: Production Designer
Ellen Mirojnick: Costume Designer
Phil Tippett: Visual Effects
Scott E. Anderson: Visual Effects
Scott Squires: Visual Effects
Jim Rygiel: Visual Effects
John Richardson: Visual Effects
Steve Wolff: Art Director
Bruce Robert Hill: Art Director
John Blake: Make-up Artist
Bill Myer: Make-up Artist
William E. Dawson, Jr.: Visual Effects
Doug Hubbard: Visual Effects
Nick Karas: Visual Effects
Barry L. McQueary: Visual Effects
Frank L. Pope: Visual Effects
Dennis A. Yeager: Visual Effects
Wes Mattox: Visual Effects
Daniel Radford: Visual Effects
David M. Jones: Visual Effects
Thomas Dadras: Visual Effects
Alec Gillis: Visual Effects
Tom Woodruff, Jr.: Visual Effects
Mark Sullivan: Visual Effects
Van Ling: Visual Effects



Sure it's time consuming and all. But after doing it for awhile I start to notice certain names coming up more frequently than others.
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