Here's a PARTIAL list of some of the DVDs that I have slip-covers on the keep cases where they are different from the existing images (most images are of the keep case rather than the slip-cover)...and thus pursuant to the rules, the slip-cover should be the one scanned and in the database (Although the rules also always warrant the best version, hopefully some of you can get some good scans from the slip covers that are better than the keep case ones) And yes almost all of these originally came with a slip-cover and were bought at Best Buy on day of release...so anyone with a scanner, your help is appreciated in getting these corrected in the database. :

043396102064 - xXx: State of The Union: Widescreen Special Edition
786936248951 - The Wild
012236189428 - Waiting...: Unrated and Raw: 2 Disc Deluxe Edition
025192326622 - Van Helsing: Widescreen
097360289947 - Tommy Boy: Holy Schnike Edition
043396172340 - Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby: Widescreen Unrated and Uncut
024543267515 - Taps: 25th Anniversary Special Edition
786936213645 - Sleeping Beauty: Special Edition
786936720983 - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest: 2 Disc Special Edition
786936157147 - Pocahontas: 10th Anniversary Edition
024543372325 - Point Break: Pure Adrenaline Edition
085392891924 - Heat: Two Disc Special Edition
786936215595 - Finding Nemo: 2 Disc Collector's Edition
794043756528 - Elf: Infinifilm
085393190828 - Chariots of Fire: Two Disc Special Edition
786936239058 - Chicago: The Razzle-Dazzle Edition
025192632426 - The Chronicles of Riddick: Unrated Director's Cut
025192472220 - The Chronicles of Riddick: Pitch Black: Unrated Director's Cut
097360504545 - Clueless: "Whatever!" Edition
012236132509 - The Crying Game: Collector's Edition
025192581922 - Dawn Of The Dead: Unrated Director's Cut
031398172314 - Beyond The Sea
025192031229 - Doom: Unrated Extended Edition
025192545726 - The Bourne Identity: Extended Edition
031398110859 - Cabin Fever
025192002328 - Apollo 13: 2 Disc Anniversary Edition
097360309041 - Airplane!: "Don't Call Me Shirley!" Edition
031398206927 - Crank: Widescreen
031398187868 - Crash: 2-Disc Director's Cut Edition
025192852725 - Carlito's Way: Ultimate Edition
025192734120 - Carlito's Way: Rise To Power: Widescreen
025192014024 - Field Of Dreams: Two Disc Anniversary Edition
043396074385 - The Fifth Element: Ultimate Edition
025193064929 - The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift
085393963026 - Gothika: Two Disc Special Edition
027616905710 - The Great Escape: Special Edition
024543146735 - Garfield: The Movie
025192870224 - George A. Romero's Land Of The Dead: Unrated Director's Cut: Widescreen
012569764538 - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Two Disc Special Edition
085392246724 - Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone: Two Disc Special Edition
043396112353 - Hitch: Widescreen
786936244250 - The Incredibles: 2-Disc Collector's Edition
025192884726 - Inside Man: Widescreen
097361183442 - Jackass: The Movie: Unrated Special Collector's Edition
025192994524 - King Kong: 2-Disc Special Edition
786936284058 - Lady And The Tramp: Platinum Edition
786936222180 - The Lion King 1 1/2
786936157154 - Mulan: Special Edition: 2-Disc Set
786936228519 - Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas
085393353124 - Malcolm X: Two-Disc Special Edition
017153144543 - The Running Man: Special Edition
024543193913 - Robots: Widescreen
017153130072 - Rio Grande: Collector's Edition DVD
678149443325 - The Ring Two: Unrated Edition
025192594427 - Ray: Widescreen
027616884169 - Rain Man: Special Ediition
097360421644 - Pretty In Pink: Everything's Duckie Edition


plus about 100 more I will get to later....but this should give you scanner geniuses a good start....

Also, slip covers often have holes in the back (and no UPC), or stickers on the front. Stickers on the keep case image usually are on the plastic and don't hinder when you take the cover out of the sleeve. So there are multiple reasons that keep case images are used.

I don't know what's going on but after checking kewlcastud's list I notice that there are a number of titles that I myself scanned and submitted the proper slip cover for and they were approved but now have the keepcase covers in the online database .

Quoting eagle61397:

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Here we go again. About a year ago we had the same discussion and here is what Gerri said:

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This is the rule:

"If a DVD is packaged in a keep case, within a slipcase of some kind, scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase. If, however, the Slipcase is reflective, and the inner cover art is identical, use the Keep Case art to scan, as it will give a better quality image. "

As a screener, I can tell you that if someone scans a reflective cover and it looks significantly worse than what it should and the voters voice that opinion (not saying that their opinion is the overriding factor, just that it factors into the decision), then chances are I would not approve it over a good quality scan of the keep case art. And the alternative is also true. If someone scans a reflective cover and it looks reasonably good and there are alot of positive comments for it, then chances are I would approve it.

As for the argument for what makes it identical, in my mind, a cutout for the UPC alone would not make them not identical nor would it being cropped differently. There is a bit of gray here, and this is another situation where I would look to the voters. This is also a case to be very specific in your reasons for voting no or yes.

In both of your examples:
"Rear cover slip case has cutout so is not identical to keepcase ....
...Not identical. His head is cut off near the top of back scan, and not so on the Slip Cover's back..."

I would not consider these to be valid reasons for saying that the keep case and slip case are not identical.

-Gerri

You can read the whole topic here.

I agree completey, as mentioned previously, almost all of these have substantial differences in the picture (would be more than happy to PM you the differences in each) and I would never presume just having a cutout is enough to warrant a change. Obviously the scan has to be good to be accepted.

Quoting mdnitoil:

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Unfortunately, it doesn't matter how good your scanner is when the slipcover has polished reflective surfaces.  Invariably those areas look like crap.

Agreed, obviously if they are reflective covers and can't produce good scans, there is nothing we can do...but the majority of these do not have that problem.