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Legally Blonde 2 contribution 5050070010848
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Making this post as the "No" box is too short!

There's a contribution up for the above title with the following notes -

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"*Updated Notes*
Added: Media Companies,Features,Crew
Updated: Cast
Sources: From the DVD and Covers.
Notes to anybody who is blind: Trivia track is already in subtitles.Uncredited should be removed if you don't have documentation on file where they are with timestamp etc.


My reasons for saying "No" to it are as follows -

They're adding two lots of credited as without anything to back up the necessity to use it. In fact, I've just had a look at them and for one of them "Sophie Carbonell [Sophie de Rakoff Carbonell]", there are NO profiles in the database for Sophie Carbonell. Zero, zip, zilch, nada.

Removing the special feature of "Trivia Track" from the other now giving the above reason. Looking at this thread from last year and
this part of the rules, it should be included as a feature -

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Examples of valid Other Features:

    * Trivia Tracks


Removing Uncredited Cast giving the reason that they aren't documented. I was under the impression that documenting uncredited cast was a relatively new change. The DVD was added in March 2007. As a result, I'm currently of the opinion that removal requires the same documentation as adding them does.

Thoughts/comments welcome 
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You can also add that he is removing roles for actors he put under the divider. Even if under a divider, the actor should have a role assigned.

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That's actually one bit I would be ok with. If a role was required the software could be configured to force you to enter one like the first name field.
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Except that there isn't everywhere you can find roles (old tv shows and movies for example), so it can't be required by the software

But fair enough. Nothing wrong with disagreeing

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You can tell I'm tired. I hadn't even thought about TV credits there!!
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I would also vot no to this profile for several reasons...

  • Undocumented use of the 'credited as' feature.

  • Improper use of dividers.  Those are group roles, not seperate cast lists.

  • Undocumented removal of uncredited cast.


  • In addition, while roles are not required, if they are in the profile already, they should not be removed.
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    Can some explain what part of the rules the post breaks please as I got a nice for it! 
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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    Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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    Can some explain what part of the rules the post breaks please as I got a nice for it! 


    I think that falls under abusing the system there, lol (gee, I wonder if the contributor was the one who did... hmmm).

    to your original post.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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    Quoting TheMovieman:
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    Can some explain what part of the rules the post breaks please as I got a nice for it! 


    I think that falls under abusing the system there, lol (gee, I wonder if the contributor was the one who did... hmmm).

    to your original post.


    Haha, thanks 

    I'm actually quite woried that it'll get accepted as so far I'm the only "No" Vs. 7 "Yes".
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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    Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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    I'm actually quite woried that it'll get accepted as so far I'm the only "No" Vs. 7 "Yes".


    That would be unfortunate. 
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    it has another no vote now
    Paul
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    Quoting pauls42:
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    it has another no vote now

    If I had the title in my owned or wishlist I'd vote NO, too, but I don't believe in adding a title just to be able to vote on int.  I'm not against voting on things that are in my wishlist on principal, but I think adding a title just to vote on it violates the spirit if not the letter of the voting process.
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    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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    Quoting kdh1949:
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    If I had the title in my owned or wishlist I'd vote NO, too, but I don't believe in adding a title just to be able to vote on int.  I'm not against voting on things that are in my wishlist on principal, but I think adding a title just to vote on it violates the spirit if not the letter of the voting process.

    Agreed.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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    Bringing this back to the front as it's been re-contributed.

    Edit: It was declined & resubmitted - Link
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    Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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    Bringing this back to the front as it's been re-contributed.

    Edit: It was declined & resubmitted - Link


    Just had a look at your "Link" FtR, and must say we've had problems in the past over this. Would also say the the ruling regarding Removal of Uncredited cast is that once in the remover has to provide documentation for its removal, as per instructions in the forum threads by either Ken or Gerri (can't remember which one off the top of my head) unless it could be proved they are a direct copy from a third party DB.

    Steve
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