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| Registered: April 13, 2007 |  Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | For those who's interested, I have added three movies with discID to differ from the original cut versions. This releases are the uncut re-release with the same EAN, so I added with discID instead. The profiles are: Under Siege: Uklippet Versjon (previous EAN 7321940124209) Den Siste Speider: Uklippet Versjon (previous EAN 7321940122175) Kodenavn:Nina: Uklippet Versjon (previous EAN 7321940128191) Needless to say they have to be added by Title or disc ID  | | | "What's God?"
"You know when you want something really bad and you wish for it?, God's the guy that ignores you"
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | I guess the "disc ID only" profile should be used for an edition with no UPC/EAN. | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: April 13, 2007 | | Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well it is two different versions, one cut and one uncut. I stated this in my contribution: "New" norwegian edition. Entered by discID, since this is a re-release with the same EAN. The first release was a cut version of the movie, and the re-release is uncut, but shared the same EAN." And it got approved. | | | "What's God?"
"You know when you want something really bad and you wish for it?, God's the guy that ignores you"
-The Island, Steve Buscemi |
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | I understand, but I still think a DVD with same Disc ID and no EAN/UPC would have precedence on that.  From the Rules: Quote:
When contributing a title by UPC, make sure the UPC is entered in this format. Do not contribute titles with "made up" or otherwise inaccurate UPCs. If a title does not have a UPC, then add the title by Disc ID, using your DVD-ROM drive.
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Studios occasionally re-release titles with the same UPC, but with changed content – for example Cover Images, Case Type and Overview. All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc; do not contribute any information that is specific to a re-release. You can of course keep this re-release information in your local database profile, but do not contribute it to the main database. | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 |  Posts: 415 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting White Pongo, Jr.: Quote:
I understand, but I still think a DVD with same Disc ID and no EAN/UPC would have precedence on that. If a DVD had the same Disc ID, it would be the same uncut version of that movie, so perhaps in a later boxset. This release came out first, so I don't see why it could not be used now. Quote:
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When contributing a title by UPC, make sure the UPC is entered in this format. Do not contribute titles with "made up" or otherwise inaccurate UPCs. If a title does not have a UPC, then add the title by Disc ID, using your DVD-ROM drive.
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Studios occasionally re-release titles with the same UPC, but with changed content – for example Cover Images, Case Type and Overview. All information in the main DVD Profiler database is to be for the Original Release version of the disc; do not contribute any information that is specific to a re-release. You can of course keep this re-release information in your local database profile, but do not contribute it to the main database. It doesn't say you can't submit a profile by Disc ID if it has a UPC - it says don't overwrite the original with re-release data. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Seems perfectly legit to me, especially since some of the re-release data (e.g. running time) are different from the original release. It's not just the covers that are different in this case! |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd agree with adding them. If it was just a re-release with a different cover or even different extras then I probably wouldn't & would just amend locally. However as this is a different cut of the film then I think it should be in the database. |
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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nice info Benty. And I agree with the way you've done it.
Where did you buy them? I've been trying forever to find Under Siege uncut, and would also love to have The Last Boyscout. | | | Berak
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| Registered: April 13, 2007 | | Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Berak: Quote:
Where did you buy them? I've been trying forever to find Under Siege uncut, and would also love to have The Last Boyscout. Sent you a PM  | | | "What's God?"
"You know when you want something really bad and you wish for it?, God's the guy that ignores you"
-The Island, Steve Buscemi |
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| Registered: July 7, 2007 | | Posts: 284 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote:
I'd agree with adding them. If it was just a re-release with a different cover or even different extras then I probably wouldn't & would just amend locally. However as this is a different cut of the film then I think it should be in the database. I disagree. Every difference should be allowed as a seperate profile. People own that DVD and it is a legitimate DVD so it belongs in the profiler. EAN restrictions are a database rule to enforce integrity, not to exclude certain releases from entry. So even with different covers only, a new profile should be allowed in my opinion. | | | My DVD's
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting jmbox: Quote:
If a DVD had the same Disc ID, it would be the same uncut version of that movie, so perhaps in a later boxset. This release came out first, so I don't see why it could not be used now.
Hmm... I see your point, and it looks like the Screeners approved it, so be it. But what about the cover? As that profile has no UPC, wouldn't a later cover with no UPC take precedence on the cover with UPC? | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Not as long as the cut version with UPC and the uncut version without UPC and entered by Disc ID are in separate profiles. Then each profile can have its own covers.
If anyone would then attempt to replace an existing cover for any of these two profiles by one from a later release, that would be a violation of the rules. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: April 13, 2007 | | Posts: 651 |
| | Posted: | | | | The uncut versions has the same cover, but with one difference. They have the words "Uklippt Versjon" (Uncut version) written on them. | | | "What's God?"
"You know when you want something really bad and you wish for it?, God's the guy that ignores you"
-The Island, Steve Buscemi |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,195 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quote:
So even with different covers only, a new profile should be allowed in my opinion. I strongly disagree with that. It would mean for every slip cover profile we would soon get a non-slip cover profile when the slip cover is dropped, not to mention every re-release of the same disc with a different cover but same UPC/EAN. The minimum requirement should at least be one of the following: a) the title has no UPC/EAN (it's part of a box set or otherwise missing) b) the UPC/EAN is already (correctly) used to identify another title (duplicate EANs) c) the Disc ID AND version is different from the original release (e.g. uncut version) Purely cosmetical changes to a release does not mean you should create a new profile using Disc ID! It could conflict both with the original profile and any existing or future box sets containing the same title. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with Patsa - using a new profile just for different covers seems wasteful |
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