Quoting surfeur51:

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Too much people contribute just to have their name on the list of contributors,

you keep saying this??? who gives a monkeys how many contributions one user does, as long as the correct data is entered in to the database
i can't believe anyone cares "having their name on the list" 

I agree... and for one wouldn't care if ken took our names off all contributions... I for one don't do it to see my name on any profile.

Quoting surfeur51:

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Too much people contribute just to have their name on the list of contributors,

IMO, just following this train of thought and then draw negative conclusions from it regarding fellow contributors is ... hmmmm ... I'm actually at a loss for words here

And even if someone just contributes tidbits to put their names in the contributors list for a specific profile: as long as the submitted data is correct, it doesn't matter if it's a miniscule contribution or a full audit. It's all good data.

It's also completely irrelevant how much data an initial submission for a new profile contains, and making more fields mandatory is a bad thing, especially when thinking of something as time consuming as C&C.

If entering Cast & Crew data according to the rules should ever become mandatory to an initial submission, this db would surely have seen the last new submission from this user.

IMO, C&C has been taken way too far, it's a thoroughly complicated and demanding task to enter it correctly and usable at the same time. But there's people out there who don't mind walking that extra mile, like you, Yves. Fine, be my guest. I appreciate your work, although it does not increase the profile value for me personally (I don't even display C&C data in my standard skin). But don't come around demanding the same amount of work from me. I don't care about it, and I won't do it.

And I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with this POV.

Quoting surfeur51:

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Too much people contribute just to have their name on the list of contributors

I do my part of contribution and honestly this is not to see my name on the contributors list. This is just for the good of the database. My name, as almost everyone here, is just an alias do you think that anyone care about it? Nobody get any fame for this, at least noboby recognize me on the street for this 

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Profile for future release are useful if they contain data. To find a profile with a title and a thumbnail from Amazon is no interest...

I agree with you on this, but not for the same reasons. It's because sometimes a release is cancel and we are caught (not sure of the phrase, but I think you understand what I mean) with it. A recent exemple is the "Eaten Alive" one disc edition by Dark Sky who was never release like this but much later on a 2 disc edition.

Quoting AESP_pres:

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Quoting surfeur51:

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Profile for future release are useful if they contain data. To find a profile with a title and a thumbnail from Amazon is no interest...

I agree with you on this, but not for the same reasons. It's because sometimes a release is cancel and we are caught (not sure of the phrase, but I think you understand what I mean) with it. A recent exemple is the "Eaten Alive" one disc edition by Dark Sky who was never release like this but much later on a 2 disc edition.

I don't agree with either surfeur or you, AESP.  If all there is is a title, UPC and (upcoming) release date, that's enough data for me to keep tabs on titles I want to acquire eventually.

While I agree it's a pain if companies keep withdrawing titles from release (for example, I have been following Panic in Needle Park for years - Finally it WAS released!) - and a nuisance to keep changing the release date in Profiler, at least if I have it in my wishlist it's a reminder to me that I want it.

If you don't want to have this sort of title in your database, no one is forcing you to add it.  But please don't prohibit me from having the data available.

Ken, this is not that I don't want pre-release in the database it's that I don't like them. This is for the reason that I mention before : the cancel title.

Let me explain my point : In the database we had to keep the original release data, but if a title is cancel and only some screeners survive (by example the Kill Baby Kill release by Dark Sky) they can be enter in the database. In theory those DVD are not suppose to exist, but they are there. Now if Dark Sky secure the right they can eventually release the DVD, but if they keep the same UPC and change a the specification (image, sound, extra) these changes can't be modify in the datase since we have to live with the unrelease screener already entered.

I hope that I'm not to confusing

Quoting AESP_pres:

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Ken, this is not that I don't want pre-release in the database it's that I don't like them. This is for the reason that I mention before : the cancel title.

Let me explain my point : In the database we had to keep the original release data, but if a title is cancel and only some screeners survive (by example the Kill Baby Kill release by Dark Sky) they can be enter in the database. In theory those DVD are not suppose to exist, but they are there. Now if Dark Sky secure the right they can eventually release the DVD, but if they keep the same UPC and change a the specification (image, sound, extra) these changes can't be modify in the datase since we have to live with the unrelease screener already entered.

I hope that I'm not to confusing

This happens and fi another distributor picks up the title then we can easily make the necessary adjustments to UPC and even arrange to have the old one removed. I have at least one title in my wishlist which was announced and never made it, there it sits waiting for its day in the sun. Doesn't bother me a bit.

Skip <shrugs>