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Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion |
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Contribution titles Region 1 Usa and Canada why the differance?? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 223 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote:
I never noticed that setting before...mine is set to United States....I wonder how the behavior would change If I set it to Canada.... Mine is set to Canada. I believe it only affects New Profiles that you create. |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 |  Posts: 663 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Hmmm interesting. Not worrying about such things myself I never had to pay attention. BUT the locality is set in your Tools/Options and being a setting would affect all your titles. There is a Canada and a canada(French) COO now BUT.....hmmmmm now I have something to think about.
Skip I just noticed to, instead of messing with your settings, you can go to "Add to Collection" under the DVD heading you can add dvds to you collection by changing the Locality there and it shows all of the releases in that area. This way you don't have to mess with your settings. | | | We're on a mission from God.
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| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
How can you keep an accurate data base with this type of discriminatory bias ??
In region 2, there is exactly the same problem with France and Belgium. But I don't see what is disturbing. When you have downloaded one of the two existing profiles, edited it for your local database, and carefully locked it, you don't have to worry about further changes... | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,481 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting eagle61397: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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Hmmm interesting. Not worrying about such things myself I never had to pay attention. BUT the locality is set in your Tools/Options and being a setting would affect all your titles. There is a Canada and a canada(French) COO now BUT.....hmmmmm now I have something to think about.
Skip
I just noticed to, instead of messing with your settings, you can go to "Add to Collection" under the DVD heading you can add dvds to you collection by changing the Locality there and it shows all of the releases in that area. This way you don't have to mess with your settings. Which leads to the all important question: You buy the disc at your local Big Box store, not sure if that came i na shipment from the USA or from a warehouse in Montreal that store duplicated discs made in Quebec. It is here where they can decide by their rules to have specialty type regulated Laws in place to insure that the cover art is either duplicated all in French on the inside of the slip sleeve. Or half the rear jacket is blocked in French text . I have at times changed my locality to USA, but as time passe's (sometimes 3 years) and if I contribute some little change to that subject title. I immediately get negatives back that I am using the wrong locality. So if I change the locality back to Canada, I then get an obscure contribution that may be missing as much as 50 % add on's . You can also see that a Canadian contribution will get any where from zero votes to maybe 4 votes , and the USA version gets 10 times that much as population ratios will imply. So the vast majority of us 'as members' haven't cared-or don't care if their discs is American or Canadian Region 1 and therefore have 'incorrect data ' labeling menu items and therefore will never know the difference as they don't contribute at all . So you can see, there is problem in this area of Our Program .. | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Whenever the same product (same UPC, identical cover art, identical disc etc) is released in more than one localities, you are of course free to add whichever you like more according to your own preference to your database. This happens a lot not only in Canada/USA and France/Belgium but in a lot of other localities too (Germany/Switzerland/Austria, Scandinavia, France/Switzerland, Italy/Switzerland). Whenever the language in two countries is the same the movie industry has the option to release the same product in two countries. But remember, these are still different releases which may differ in release date and most often differ in rating and SRP. Enough reason to have both variants in the online database. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
So you can see, there is problem in this area of Our Program .. No, I can't see the problem. I deal a lot with the same situation in Germany/Switzerland. Most Swiss user do not care if they add the German or Swiss profile to their database when they buy a DVD. And this behaviour is fine for them (if they do not care about release date and SRP, the rating is the same). I buy a lot of discs in Germany, but whenever I buy a disc in Switzerland I do add the Swiss profile to my database even if the product is exactly the same and the Swiss profile does not exist yet. In those cases I do create the Swiss profile by downloading the German profile and adjusting all data to the Swiss locality and contributing the profile. It is true that the Swiss profiler community is much smaller than the German one. And therefore the German contributions get much more attention (votes). But this is IMO not a big disadvantage for the Swiss profiles and with some profiles, where there are contribution fights going on, it is even an advantage to have the correct profile in the alternate locality.  |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,014 |
| | Posted: | | | | The situation is much the same with The Netherlands and Belgium, esp. the Dutch- (or Flemish-) speaking part of Belgium. In this case, the DVD rating system is shared by both countries and in many cases SRP and release date as well. There's quite a few "Benelux" releases out there, so it becomes arbitrary what the locality is. DVDP users from Belgium have stated in the past that they tend to look for profiles with Netherlands as locality, because there are more DVDP users in The Netherlands than in Flanders (Dutch-speaking part of Belgium).
So the USA-Canada issue is nothing new.
I agree with Skip that this cannot be resolved in the program or the contribution rules. As surfeur and others have said, you just have to deal with this in a pragmatic way. In many cases this will mean: if there is no entry in the database for your locality, download the one for the locality you're more or less "sharing" releases with (preferably the one with the largest DVDP user community), verify the info in the profile and make changes where necessary (e.g. to accommodate different rating systems, SRP and release dates) and then make a new contribution to the Invelos database for your locality.
If, however, you're happy having the profile for the adjacent locality in your local database instead of creating one for your own locality, that's fine too.
BTW: some people in this thread seem to be confusing Country of Origin (CoO) with Locality. CoO has nothing to do with various DVD releases of the same film. CoO should reflect the (primary) country of production of the FILM, not the DVD. Locality is what this thread is about. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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