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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay, I need help in how I credit this please!: The screen reads: Additional Scenes Directed and Photographed by Giancarlo Lui and Bob Guccione. Do they get a Director's credit?
Also, Tinto Brass, the director from what I understand, isn't credited, except for an opening credit of Principal Photography by Tinto Brass. Should I credit him, or leave him off? Right now, he's in the crew list, but I believe he was included in the new contribution.
The UPC: 014381416022 | | | | Lori |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | I will try my best to answer your question : 1. Bob Guccione is the director of the hardcore insert on the unrated version who is the release theatre version. Giancarlo Lui is the DP of the insert (for this last one I'm not sure at 100%). 2. Tinto Brass is the real director of the movie , but the final product displease him and a lot of thing happen (a little bit to long to explain here). If you want the complete information you can go here or better listen to his interview since you already have the disc. Hopes that's help. | | | | Last edited: by Jimmy S |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | I bought the new re-release last week. It doesn't have the commentary as it's a pretty bare-bones version. They wanted people to splurge for the 3 disc one. But mine is one that just came out on the 2nd of just the unrated version. I'm fine with leaving Tinto Brass in as the director. But since mine is the unrated version, should I add Bob Guccione as a director as well? ... actually, the credits give equal treatment to him and Giancarlo Lui with that, so I'd have to add them both. Basically, should there be 3 directors or because they only directed a few segments, does that not count? Personally, I don't care either way, just want the right info in the database. Thanks for the help.  | | | | Lori |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting LJG: Quote:
Okay, I need help in how I credit this please!: The screen reads: Additional Scenes Directed and Photographed by Giancarlo Lui and Bob Guccione. Do they get a Director's credit? There is no provision in Profiler for directors of 'additional scenes'. They should be left out. Quote:
Also, Tinto Brass, the director from what I understand, isn't credited, except for an opening credit of Principal Photography by Tinto Brass. Should I credit him, or leave him off? Right now, he's in the crew list, but I believe he was included in the new contribution.
The UPC: 014381416022 The rules say not to include uncredited crew members. So, unfortunately, if he is not credited...he is left out. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not at work, so can't check the credits myself, but I think Unicus69 has it right.
Definitely no credits for Guccione or Lui - in this situation I'd consider them equivalent to a "2nd unit" crew.
And unfortunately if there is no director credit for Tinto Brass, he doesn't get one either - although I'd find it acceptable if you could find some verification that "principal photography" was a director credit. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
I'm not at work, so can't check the credits myself, but I think Unicus69 has it right.
Definitely no credits for Guccione or Lui - in this situation I'd consider them equivalent to a "2nd unit" crew.
And unfortunately if there is no director credit for Tinto Brass, he doesn't get one either - although I'd find it acceptable if you could find some verification that "principal photography" was a director credit. Bob Guccione should get a Producer credit, however, since he paid for the entire project. | | | John
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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I'm not at work, so can't check the credits myself, but I think Unicus69 has it right.
Definitely no credits for Guccione or Lui - in this situation I'd consider them equivalent to a "2nd unit" crew.
And unfortunately if there is no director credit for Tinto Brass, he doesn't get one either - although I'd find it acceptable if you could find some verification that "principal photography" was a director credit.
Bob Guccione should get a Producer credit, however, since he paid for the entire project. Not if he isn't credited as such. This rule is quite clear...crew without a film credit have to be left out. I don't particularly like it, but that is the way it is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | This movie is the perfect example of the limit of the rule, don't go ballistic on me for this. Everyone know who did what on this production and the history of this production is well documented, but we have to "follow the leader". So nothing in the profile world exist exept what was written in the credit even if it's false. But, you can personalize your profile for your personal use and corect the crew to reflect the reality. Guccione works are not "2nd crew" works, it's an important part of the production : He is the director of all the hardcore insert. Those "insert" are the reason why this movie was a complete fiasco and a complete mess. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
Those "insert" are the reason why this movie was a complete fiasco and a complete mess. Those inserts are only part of the reason why Caligula was a fiasco and a complete mess - certainly not the only reason. The pre-release version on disc 2 of the new set doesn't have those hard core inserts and it's also a mess. The real problem with Caligula is that it is edited so badly that it makes little sense. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote:
This movie is the perfect example of the limit of the rule, don't go ballistic on me for this. Everyone know who did what on this production and the history of this production is well documented, but we have to "follow the leader". So nothing in the profile world exist exept what was written in the credit even if it's false. But, you can personalize your profile for your personal use and corect the crew to reflect the reality. Guccione works are not "2nd crew" works, it's an important part of the production : He is the director of all the hardcore insert. Those "insert" are the reason why this movie was a complete fiasco and a complete mess. But also why it's been a cult favorite for decades. | | | John
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| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | I say that it's a mess, but I like it. I already own the unrated version and I have already order the new 3 disc DVD. It's a fiasco but the history of his creation is so great than you could resist to is attraction. But, I'm the guy who think that Coleman Francis and Michael Findlay are the best director ever  |
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