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That is not your responsibility and i would hope that Gerri will take note that you are unilaterally taking action not supported by the Rules or your own Poll and that she will DECLINE any such Contribution. I will vote NO on any such Contribution and I hope everyone else will as well. You want to use Twentieth ke3ep it local.

Likewise, I'll say that I'll vote against any "20th" update where the cover shows "Twentieth", and I expect the screeners to decline any such contribution.

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@Hal,
But because of the new distributor field, all of these profiles are going to have to be changed anyway!
It seems an ideal opportunity to make sure we get the right name in the database.
If these profiles weren't going to have to be changed anyway, I'd have agreed and said leave as is, but we're going to be inundated with changes, so might as well get this changed too.

That's assuming that Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment is the correct way to enter it.

So far, the poll does not support that position.

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Since we're on this distributor topic, here's a good one.

The Blu-ray version of Halloween shows the Anchor Bay logo on the back of the case.  At the bottom of the logo, it says "A Starz Company".  Right next to that is the Starz logo with Starz Home Entertainment under it.

When I contributed this I removed the Anchor Bay listing from the production studios and added Starz Home Entertainment to the Distributor field.  Which of course generated loud protests for removing Anchor Bay.

Since there is only one Distributor field, and I don't believe Anchor Bay is a production studio, what should have been done?

I have one of these myself, and that one really is distributed by "Starz Home Entertainment". Based on that one, and what you've said, I'd say your change was correct. But if you share the EAN, I could have a look...

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Since we're on this distributor topic, here's a good one.

The Blu-ray version of Halloween shows the Anchor Bay logo on the back of the case.  At the bottom of the logo, it says "A Starz Company".  Right next to that is the Starz logo with Starz Home Entertainment under it.

When I contributed this I removed the Anchor Bay listing from the production studios and added Starz Home Entertainment to the Distributor field.  Which of course generated loud protests for removing Anchor Bay.

Since there is only one Distributor field, and I don't believe Anchor Bay is a production studio, what should have been done?

I have one of these myself, and that one really is distributed by "Starz Home Entertainment". Based on that one, and what you've said, I'd say your change was correct. But if you share the EAN, I could have a look...

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That is not your responsibility and i would hope that Gerri will take note that you are unilaterally taking action not supported by the Rules or your own Poll and that she will DECLINE any such Contribution. I will vote NO on any such Contribution and I hope everyone else will as well. You want to use Twentieth ke3ep it local.

Likewise, I'll say that I'll vote against any "20th" update where the cover shows "Twentieth", and I expect the screeners to decline any such contribution.

You don't have the Rules to support you, sir. I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So vote away and i will so note it my comments that will accompany the Yes vote. Why did you even bother with a poll, when you had already chosen that you intended to ignore the resulkts and the Rules.

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You have no categorically stated that you don't care what the Rules say to do

I have "no categorically stated"? Or are you saying that I have "categorically stated"? In any case: I haven't. You have accused me of doing so time and time again, each time in a hopeless attempt to undermine my statements, but I certainly haven't ever stated that I don't care what the rules say - and I DO care, obviously. If I didn't, I'd have left these forums a long time ago and kept my work to myself.

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or even what your own poll says.

That's true, but what's wrong with that? The poll is just a way to gauge opinion of a few active forum members, but it doesn't mean anything. You yourself have repeatedly stated that polls (especially the ones that didn't go your way) were meaningless. I'm actually pretty pleased with the poll results here: they show that quite a few people understand that the correct entry is "Twentieth Century Fox Home Entertainment". It always takes a bit of effort to get things changed around here, and in that light these results aren't too shabby: remember that the forum community has a long history of not voting for the logical/accurate/correct option...    Among the "20th" voters, there are bound to be a bunch of people who voted for that just because that's what they're currently using, without actually considering (or even reading) the things that have been brought forward in the course of this thread. It's not surprising that it is what most people are using - I was one of them myself - as it's prescribed by the studios reference thread. As others have confirmed, though, that entry only uses "20th" because the studios field wasn't long enough to enter the correct full name. In light of this, I feel the support for "Twentieth" is positively overwhelming, and I expect it will only grow as people realize that's indeed how it's written on all their DVD covers.

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You know better and more than anyone else

I do? Gee, thanks. Let me be a little modest: I'm fairly sure I know "better and more" than some people - let's not start naming names, now - but I'm absolutely certain that I don't know better than anyone else - that really is a bit too much praise there, Skip.

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I suggest you simply do what the Rules dictate

You've got yourself a deal there! That's settled, then: I'll do what the rules dictate. Will you?

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You don't have the Rules to support you, sir. I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So vote away and i will so note it my comments that will accompany the Yes vote. Why did you even bother with a poll, when you had already chosen that you intended to ignore the resulkts and the Rules.

Skip

And I repeat, quote the section of the rules that says this is wrong.
Also, since when does a poll result have any influence over what we do or don't contribute - as you've said so often in the past!

I'll back North on this one! Where in the rules do you find what you explain here Skip?

This is getting plain silly - Ken, time to round up your "children" and set us all straight! 

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Studios
List the Studios in the following priority.

    * Theatrical Release Studio(s)
    * Production Company(s)
    * DVD Distribution studio(s) if there is room available.

Do not abbreviate Studio names. e.g, use Universal Pictures not just Universal; The Criterion Collection rather than Criterion or Criterion Collection; Walt Disney Pictures not just Disney or Disney DVD. Exception: If the studio name is too long to fit, use standard abbreviation rules.

There is further information about correct names for studios, and the opportunity to ask questions if unsure, in the Contributions forum.

Then see the Studios thread. Which is VERY clear.

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