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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Tim:
I don't want to say this. Then don't. How's that for a bit of free advice? Quote:
I will NOT accept any data from you. Am I supposed to feel a deep sense of loss now? I hate to dissappoint, but I'm afraid I couldn't care less - it's your loss...  |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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I will NOT accept any data from you.
Am I supposed to feel a deep sense of loss now? I hate to dissappoint, but I'm afraid I couldn't care less - it's your loss... Don't feel bad - he won't accept data from anyone - he doesn't want to lose his database full of IMDB-cloned data!  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | That is a flagrant LIE, maliciopus and slanderous. I expect no better from you. But I now know you for what you are, if I didn't before | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: February 23, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | I find it so sad that a contribution with completely correct data needs to turn into a 7-page rant because one person is unable to accept that fact that what is common knowledge for one person may not be so for another and vice versa.
You call his contribution garbage, I on the other hand say thank you to the contributor for correcting an error in the online.
I can submit credits for a movie with parsing Tom // Cruise, without documentation. Does that make my contribution worthless because I don't document that parsing? Of course not: the data is correct.
I hope next time you contribute cast or crew, every single voter questions your parsing of their names and asks you to document each and every one of them. Maybe then you would realize how utterly ridiculous it is to ask documentation for a submission based on following a generally accepted common rule.
You are just being spiteful because you voted NO against a perfectly correct contribution since it wasn't based on something you weren't knowledgeable in and you don't want to admit you were wrong. I find it very low to turn on the contributor like you do now out of pure ego-tripping. Calling his contribution garbage is completely uncalled for and for a person pretending to want correct data in the online, completely hypocritical. That's all I have to say about this. | | | Blu-ray collection
DVD collection
My Games
My Trophies | | | | Last edited: by Taro |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote:
I find it so sad that a contribution with completely correct data needs to turn into a 7-page rant because one person is unable to accept that fact that what is common knowledge for one person may not be so for another and vice versa.
You call his contribution garbage, I on the other hand say thank you to the contributor for correcting an error in the online.
I can submit credits for a movie with parsing Tom // Cruise, without documentation. Does that make my contribution worthless because I don't document that parsing? Of course not: the data is correct.
I hope next time you contribute cast or crew, every single voter questions your parsing of their names and asks you to document each and every one of them. Maybe then you would realize how utterly ridiculous it is to ask documentation for a submission based on following a generally accepted common rule.
You are just being spiteful because you voted NO against a perfectly correct contribution since it wasn't based on something you weren't knowledgeable in and you don't want to admit you were wrong. I find it very low to turn on the contributor like you do now out of pure ego-tripping. Calling his contribution garbage is completely uncalled for and for a person pretending to want correct data in the online, completely hypocritical. That's all I have to say about this. Taro: If they choose to do so and their question is VALID, note I said VALID, then I will make every necessary change. However, it is because of the general childishness and poisonous atmosphere egendfered in these DForums is why I by and large keep my data to myself, and yes even you played a hand in that decision, you who left because big bad Skip was picking on you.  Valid data is properly documented, it is not guessed nor is accepted because a user says so.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
...big bad Skip... That made me lough. Our big bad wolf.   |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I thought about sending this as a private message(s) but decided to post my thoughts publicly.
A lot of the problems that I see in this thread is based on what people would like to see regarding documentation.
There are some that would like thorough and complete documentation for every aspect of every contribution.
Although this would be ideal, invelos has NOT made this a requirement. Ken has addressed this issue and any further discussion, unless it is in the forum request, are moot points.
There have been so many threads that have addressed this topic and the end result is I am tired of reading the same arguments over and over again. I would respectively ask those who do this to please stop it. |
| | Registered: February 23, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,580 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
If they choose to do so and their question is VALID, note I said VALID, then I will make every necessary change. However, it is because of the general childishness and poisonous atmosphere egendfered in these DForums is why I by and large keep my data to myself, and yes even you played a hand in that decision, you who left because big bad Skip was picking on you.
Valid data is properly documented, it is not guessed nor is accepted because a user says so. A couple of brief points: 1. My temporary leaving the forums has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. So I see no reason to drag that into this discussion 2. You assume the data was guessed. For all you know, the fact that Van 't is part of a person's last name is so obvious to the contributor since he or she is well-versed in Dutch naming conventions that he or she didn't even think it necessary to post an explanation about it. I've been saying this constantly in this thread 3. The data is correct in that it follows Dutch naming conventions. 4. per Invelos' rules, the user is not required to provide documentation. You are free of course to request the contributor does that, but it's a polite request from your part, nothing more. You cannot enforce this. Finally, it is not my place to give advice, but I think one catches a lot more flies with honey than with vinegar. I am sympathetic to your drive to feed the database with documentation other users can fall back on when wondering why a certain change was made. However, in this case all you can do is politely ask the contributor to do so, as it is not required. I'm fairly sure if you explain your motivation calmly and ask politely, a lot of users will grant your request. However, if you sound forceful and keep voting negatively only because of this point, knowing full well the data is actually correct, then I'm afraid you'll get the opposite effect of what you wish you for, as contributors will be even less inclined to go the extra mile for you given your attitude. At least, that's how I perceive it. Let's not drag the forum into a downward spiral again but instead try to be positive. Be happy a contributor puts correct data into the online and kindly ask him or her to complete his or her contribution with additional notes for future reference. Being forceful like you are now will only push people away from you. Those were my final 2 cents. | | | Blu-ray collection
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My Games
My Trophies | | | | Last edited: by Taro |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
I thought about sending this as a private message(s) but decided to post my thoughts publicly.
A lot of the problems that I see in this thread is based on what people would like to see regarding documentation.
There are some that would like thorough and complete documentation for every aspect of every contribution.
Although this would be ideal, invelos has NOT made this a requirement. Ken has addressed this issue and any further discussion, unless it is in the forum request, are moot points.
There have been so many threads that have addressed this topic and the end result is I am tired of reading the same arguments over and over again. I would respectively ask those who do this to please stop it. Kathy: Again I am not unreasonable, I do not expect COMPLETE and necessarily thourough documentation. Buty neither do I accept NO DPOCUMENTATION at all, that is the difference. Like I said all the user had to do was edit his notes to cross-reference this thread, a couple of words with a link, that 's IT. Not only did the user refuuse to do that, he then compounde his insult by arrogantly bragging that his data was accepted without documentation. I am sorry, I am PO'd at he user, at the voters, including you Kathy and at Ken for not expecting users to provide something for documentation, not suggest it, but REQUIRE it. Not just a a totally vapid comment that is because the user said it is. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | What a surprise another seven pages topic where everyone agree except one for a profile who was approved anyway It seems evident to me that if the screener gave their ok it's like Ken giving it...  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Of course you don't understand, taro. you set up a crying thread which was nothing more than an attack aimed at a single user, which was pounced upon by other users and WORSE you were allowed to get away with it. Oh Big Bad Skip picked on me, I am going to leave, ohhhhh woe is me. You don't see the problem with YOUR behavior, you don't see that attacked another user? sorry, pal. I don't forget that kind of thing easily. And now I am expected to accept what you say about a user refusing to documemt data he should have, sorry Taro, not going to happen. Had you made the Contribution you KNOW that i would have voted No about it and you would have ignored the no vote. Not only that this thread was stared by a user and any user knows that had I started the thread what the end result would have been, but has anyone said anything to him....NOPE. The hypocrisy in DVD Profiler has become so thick and poisonous that i am amazed that we are ble to maintain any semblance of a valid database.. I jhave said this before every ONE of you, including my sweet Kathy, need to look at themselves. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Quoting Kathy:
Quote:
I thought about sending this as a private message(s) but decided to post my thoughts publicly.
A lot of the problems that I see in this thread is based on what people would like to see regarding documentation.
There are some that would like thorough and complete documentation for every aspect of every contribution.
Although this would be ideal, invelos has NOT made this a requirement. Ken has addressed this issue and any further discussion, unless it is in the forum request, are moot points.
There have been so many threads that have addressed this topic and the end result is I am tired of reading the same arguments over and over again. I would respectively ask those who do this to please stop it.
Kathy:
Again I am not unreasonable, I do not expect COMPLETE and necessarily thourough documentation. Buty neither do I accept NO DPOCUMENTATION at all, that is the difference. Like I said all the user had to do was edit his notes to cross-reference this thread, a couple of words with a link, that 's IT. Not only did the user refuuse to do that, he then compounde his insult by arrogantly bragging that his data was accepted without documentation. I am sorry, I am PO'd at he user, at the voters, including you Kathy and at Ken for not expecting users to provide something for documentation, not suggest it, but REQUIRE it. Not just a a totally vapid comment that is because the user said it is. Skip, I have read this thread and many others specifically addressing the documentation issue. In this situation, I do not agree with you for the reasons Taro has outlined. I'm sorry if this is unacceptable to you. But, it IS acceptable to most of the forum posters. And, most important, it is acceptable to the screeners and Ken. The problem I have is when someone can not or will not accept the decision that has been made by the owner of the program. I find the continuous anger, frustration and lashing out to those decisions detrimental to the community. One needs only to go through though postings from over a year ago to see that this is not something new. This same topics were addressed over and over again. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Albert Einstein |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Perhaps, Kathy, I have never said i wasn't crazy, I do have near 5,000 titles after all. BUT that does not excuse your insistence on singling me out while ignoring and thereby excusing the behavior of others. Show me fair. North's flagrant lie was unacceptable, north's launching a personal attack based on a comment NOT directed at him was unacceptable, and those are only TWO. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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