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List of Accepted Birth Years with Documentation. |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hzzh: Quote:
In these four movies the suffix Jr. is not included so a birth year is needed to distinguish him from his father as their names are identical. No, it's not that simple. We use birth years to distinguish between common names, not to distinguish between credit variations. Nevertheless, you may well be right: if Jr.'s common name is indeed the variant without the suffix, then we indeed need birth years. But if his common name includes the suffix, then birth years aren't necessary: we would then differentiate between them using their common names, not by using birth years. User jmbox has started a common name-finding thread to determine this - right here. Your confirmed credits for 'Original Sin', 'The Legend of Zorro' and 'The Mask of Zorro' will be very welcome in that thread. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ron White (1956): Sex and the City 2 (2010)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_White
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1247387/
- http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Ron_White
- http://www.answers.com/topic/ron-white
Ron White (1953): Unforgiven (1992), Soul Survivor (1995), Screamers (1995), The Arrow (1997), Defendor (2009)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_White_(actor)
- http://wapedia.mobi/en/Ron_White_%28actor%29
- http://www.canadiantheatre.com/dict.pl?term=White%2C Ron
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0925406/
BYs for Ron White (1956) and Ron White (1953) are both now Reviewing | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote:
Ron White (1956): Sex and the City 2 (2010)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_White
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1247387/
- http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Ron_White
- http://www.answers.com/topic/ron-white
Ron White (1953): Unforgiven (1992), Soul Survivor (1995), Screamers (1995), The Arrow (1997), Defendor (2009)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_White_(actor)
- http://wapedia.mobi/en/Ron_White_%28actor%29
- http://www.canadiantheatre.com/dict.pl?term=White%2C Ron
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0925406/
BYs for Ron White (1956) and Ron White (1953) are both now Reviewing Both Approved today: Ron White (1956), the last post: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=482197&PageNum=LASTRon White (1953), the last post: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=36024&PageNum=LAST | | | | Cor |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | **NOTE**: The CLT results for Stuart F. Wilson aka Stuart Wilson (????) may be incorrect because there are multiple Stuart Wilson in the database.
Stuart F. Wilson > 10 titles (31 profiles)
Stuart Wilson > 238 titles (1058 profiles)
It looks like there is at least 3 Stuart Wilsons:
Accepted BY thread of Stuart Wilson (1946) and Stuart Wilson (1966):
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=250804&messageID=665753#M665753.
Stuart Wilson aka Stuart F. Wilson (????) BY documentation:
- http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1151714/
- http://www.film.com/celebrities/stuart-wilson/14660163
- http://www.hollywood.com/celebrity/1119824/Stuart_Wilson
- http://movies.nytimes.com/person/1287886/Stuart-F-Wilson |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Steve Clark
(1891) Died 1954
Bonanza Town
Heroes of the Alamo
Nancy Drew... Reporter
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164521/
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?GRid=10024106&page=gr
http://www.b-westerns.com/villainu.htm
(?)
The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-up Zombies
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164525/
(?)
Alfred Hitchcock Presents
Cisco Kid
Phantom from Space
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164530/
(?)
On the Line
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1653114/ Are you sure about some of this? Your Steve Clark #2 has, according to your source, only one credit, of which that same source claims he's credited as Steve Clark e in - which, if true, would mean that would be his common name for our purposes. While the CLT does indeed list him as Steve Clark, we have no assurance yet that that's not IMDb-mined data. Has anyone actually checked up on that title? Your Steve Clark #3 may also have a different common name (Steve n Clark), but I'll buy Steve Clark #4 I'll no questions asked, so at least that one is enough to warrant the birth year for the Steve Clark #1. Quote:
And many other crew members by that same name according to the CLT It would seem so, yes. |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting CubbyUps:
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Steve Clark
(1891) Died 1954
Bonanza Town
Heroes of the Alamo
Nancy Drew... Reporter
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164521/
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?GRid=10024106&page=gr
http://www.b-westerns.com/villainu.htm
(?)
The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-up Zombies
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164525/
(?)
Alfred Hitchcock Presents
Cisco Kid
Phantom from Space
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164530/
(?)
On the Line
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1653114/
Are you sure about some of this? Your Steve Clark #2 has, according to your source, only one credit, of which that same source claims he's credited as Steve Clarke in - which, if true, would mean that would be his common name for our purposes. While the CLT does indeed list him as Steve Clark, we have no assurance yet that that's not IMDb-mined data. Has anyone actually checked up on that title? Your Steve Clark #3 may also have a different common name (Steven Clark), but I'll buy Steve Clark #4 I'll no questions asked, so at least that one is enough to warrant the birth year for the Steve Clark #1.
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And many other crew members by that same name according to the CLT
It would seem so, yes. And don't forget Steve Clark of Def Leppard, who died in 1991!  | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! | | | | Last edited: by huskersports |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting huskersports: Quote:
And don't forget Steve Clark of Def Leppard, who died in 1991! True. Let me add some links for posterity's sake: - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Clark - http://defleppard.com/band/steve.asp |
| | Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
Philip Morris
(Actor) (1893)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0606863/
http://www.allmovie.com/artist/philip-morris-50802
http://www.redeyereview.com/person/philip-morris
Philip Morris
(Actor) (?)
Knight Rider
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2955746/ This is nothing but an IMDb-error - that alledged second Philip Morris doesn't actually exist. Various other sources (like this one) indicate that the Philip Morris seen in that 'Knight Rider' episode is actually actor Phil Morris, son of 'Mission: Impossible' actor Greg Morris. I can do better than an external source, though: I've just re-watched that episode, and can confirm it's indeed Phil Morris, even though he's credited as "Philip Morris". Fun fact: Devon even utters a fairly explicit 'Mission: Impossible' reference. So the proper entry for that credit is "Phil Morris [Philip Morris]"; that renders the second Philip Morris nonexistent; meaning there's no need (nor is it allowed) to add a birth year to the first Philip Morris. |
| | Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
Mark Taylor (actor, 1976) Hostel, Hellboy
http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm0852845/
Mark Taylor (sound, 1966) AVP: Alien vs Predator, Hellboy: The Golden Army, Casino Royale, Planet 51, Quantum of Solace, Snatch., Trainspotting, The Last Legion, Vantage Point
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0852837/
Mark Taylor (actor, 1977) Love, Sex and Eating the Bones, Who is Clark Rockefeller?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Taylor_%28actor%29
Profile Contribution Approved Jun 2 2010 10:06AM Not on front page (Page 41) |
| | Registered: April 3, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | Last edited: by ninehours |
| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | There's an invalid BY for Pedro Almodóvar (1949) in the Dutch profile of Atame! EAN 8-716777-057223.
As far as I know there's only one Pedro Almodóvar. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
| | Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 876 |
| | Posted: | | | | James Cameron
Director, Writer, Producer and Actor ...
BY 1954
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cameron
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/
http://movies.nytimes.com/person/10397/James-Cameron/biography
James Cameron
BY ????
Actor "High Heels and Low Lifes"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1706599/ |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 767 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting _ppj_: Quote:
James Cameron
Director, Writer, Producer and Actor ...
BY 1954
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cameron
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000116/
http://movies.nytimes.com/person/10397/James-Cameron/biography
James Cameron
BY ????
Actor "High Heels and Low Lifes"
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1706599/ Slightly off-topic, but you do realize that there are only 11 entries for High Heels and Low Lifes, versus 1100 (!) entries for James Cameron? That's 1%.... I mentioned it earlier when a birth year for Mel Gibson was introduced ( click). |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,087 |
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