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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | I have found a third Will Smith to add to the database. I have only found one source of documentation outside of the DVD credits.
Will Smith (????) Cinematographer: - Riding Giants
Documentation: - http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808566409/cast
There are 2 Will Smiths currently in the database with the BY of 1968 and 1971: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=250804&messageID=921412#M921412 |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Joan Blair (1960): Actress - Donnie Darko - He's Just Not That Into You - Daddy Day Care - Pretty Dead Girl Documentation: - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086276/ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_M._Blair
Joan Blair (1903): Actress: Born Lilian Wilck - Ring of Fire - Earthquake - Citizen Kane - My Son, The Hero Documentation: - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086274/ - http://www.fandango.com/joanblair/filmography/p6527 - http://www.allmovie.com/artist/joan-blair-6527 |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: Joan Blair (1960): Actress - Donnie Darko - He's Just Not That Into You - Daddy Day Care - Pretty Dead Girl Documentation: - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086276/ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_M._Blair
Joan Blair (1903): Actress: Born Lilian Wilck - Ring of Fire - Earthquake - Citizen Kane - My Son, The Hero Documentation: - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086274/ - http://www.fandango.com/joanblair/filmography/p6527 - http://www.allmovie.com/artist/joan-blair-6527 Isn't Joan Blair (1960) common name Joan M. Blair because I have her three times in my db as Joan M. Blair. Two are credited as Joan M. Blair and one as Joan Blair. | | | Cor |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Quoting Kathy:
Quote: Joan Blair (1960): Actress - Donnie Darko - He's Just Not That Into You - Daddy Day Care - Pretty Dead Girl Documentation: - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086276/ - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_M._Blair
Joan Blair (1903): Actress: Born Lilian Wilck - Ring of Fire - Earthquake - Citizen Kane - My Son, The Hero Documentation: - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086274/ - http://www.fandango.com/joanblair/filmography/p6527 - http://www.allmovie.com/artist/joan-blair-6527
Isn't Joan Blair (1960) common name Joan M. Blair because I have her three times in my db as Joan M. Blair. Two are credited as Joan M. Blair and one as Joan Blair. I'm not sure - I will double check. When I went to contribute Ring of Fire UPC 658149408029 it came up Joan Blair (1960) which I knew to be incorrect. So I did a little research and found the info above. A quick look shows that this will need to be researched further. It seems that some of the data has both women together. I have to leave for work shortly and will not get back to this for a bit. | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,998 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote: Ian Roberts (born 1952) is a South African actor, playwright and singer (Tsotsi). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Roberts_(South_African_actor) http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0731167/
Ian Roberts (born July 29, 1965) is an english actor (Superman Returns). http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1345123/ Appears to be 2 1965 Ian Roberts http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0731168/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1345123/ |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Isn't Joan Blair (1960) common name Joan M. Blair because I have her three times in my db as Joan M. Blair. Two are credited as Joan M. Blair and one as Joan Blair. No, it's not: the birth years are actually needed. This issue already has it's own dedicated forum thread, right here. |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting Corne:
Quote: Isn't Joan Blair (1960) common name Joan M. Blair because I have her three times in my db as Joan M. Blair. Two are credited as Joan M. Blair and one as Joan Blair. No, it's not: the birth years are actually needed. This issue already has it's own dedicated forum thread, right here. My mistake. In the 'Show Credits' window the uncredited tag isn't shown. So the two Joan M. Blair's in my db are uncredited, my apologies! | | | Cor |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: In the 'Show Credits' window the uncredited tag isn't shown. Off-topic, but this is indeed very unfortunate. I don't see why the (uncredited) tag is omitted from that window, and I don't like it either. |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Melissa Young (1967): Tin Cup (1996), "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 4" (1995), "Beverly Hills 90210: Season 3" (1992), "Columbo: Season 9" (1990) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949883/ - http://www.flixster.com/actor/melissa-young - http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Melissa_Young
Melissa Young (1982): Legally Blonde (2001) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1049336/ - http://www.celebritywonder.com/cgi-bin/birthday2.cgi?D1=may&D1=21 - http://iniciodeunatienda.blogspot.com/2010/05/nacieron-hoy_21.html
Melissa Young (????): Asylum of Terror (1998) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1423991/
Melissa Young (1982) is now reviewing. | | | Cor |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Melissa Young (1967): Tin Cup (1996), "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 4" (1995), "Beverly Hills 90210: Season 3" (1992), "Columbo: Season 9" (1990) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949883/ - http://www.flixster.com/actor/melissa-young - http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Melissa_Young
Melissa Young (1982): Legally Blonde (2001) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1049336/ - http://www.celebritywonder.com/cgi-bin/birthday2.cgi?D1=may&D1=21 - http://iniciodeunatienda.blogspot.com/2010/05/nacieron-hoy_21.html
Melissa Young (????): Asylum of Terror (1998) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1423991/
Melissa Young (1982) is now reviewing. Melissa Young (1982) has been Approved. | | | Cor | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Melissa Young (1967): Tin Cup (1996), "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Season 4" (1995), "Beverly Hills 90210: Season 3" (1992), "Columbo: Season 9" (1990) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0949883/ - http://www.flixster.com/actor/melissa-young - http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Melissa_Young
Melissa Young (1982): Legally Blonde (2001) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1049336/ - http://www.celebritywonder.com/cgi-bin/birthday2.cgi?D1=may&D1=21 - http://iniciodeunatienda.blogspot.com/2010/05/nacieron-hoy_21.html
Melissa Young (????): Asylum of Terror (1998) - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1423991/
Melissa Young (1982) is now reviewing. Melissa Young (1967) has been Approved. | | | Cor |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,212 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Some users have suggested to also keep a list of known invalid birth years, so here they are. For each of these names, there is only ONE person with that (common) name in the database, meaning their birth years aren't needed, nor allowed. Where available, I've included a link to additional information. This "invalid"-list is obviously far from complete - let me know when you've found another one, so I can include it here for easy reference. Please strip these invalid birth years from any profiles you see them in.
INVALID BIRTH YEARS
Kathy Bates (1948) Documented as invalid here. Marshall Bell (1945) Xander Berkeley (1955) Documented as invalid here. Michael Byrne (1943) Documented as invalid here. Robert De Niro (1943) Jason Flemyng (1966) Roger Frost (1948) Lance Henriksen (1940) Samuel L. Jackson (1948) Lucy Liu (1968) Nan Martin (1927) Documented as invalid here. Paul Massey (1958) Ryan Murphy (1965) Documented as invalid here. Ken Ralston (1954) Documented as invalid here (discussion includes the subsequent posts on the same page by Kluge and Sidrat). Joel Silver (1952) Documented as invalid here. Amber Smith (1972) Documented as invalid here: the correct birth year is 1971. Frank Welker (1945) Ian Whyte (1971)
Keep in mind that this list only tracks invalid birth years that somehow managed to slip through and actually made it onto Invelos' own "approved" list, meaning that no checkbox appears when you'd try to contribute it. It does not include incorrect and/or unneeded birth years that aren't on Invelos' own "approved" list and for which a checkbox appears. Scott Rudin 1958 has an invalid Birth Year in the Main Dbase. Not documented in this thread or the (abc) List of Accepted BY's. No checkbox appearance by contribution so this suggest to be ( wrongly )approved. Please add to this list above. John |
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Registered: May 26, 2007 | Posts: 4 |
| Posted: | | | | Adding birthyear for Pedro Armendáriz (1912) to distinguish him from his son Pedro Armendáriz (1940).
Pedro Armendáriz (1912) From Russia with Love http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Armend%C3%A1riz http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000784/
Pedro Armendáriz (1940), sometimes (but not always) credited as Pedro Armendáriz Jr. Licence to Kill, The Mask of Zorro, Original Sin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Armend%C3%A1riz_Jr. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001917/
1912 BY Contributed Profile Contribution Approved Nov 9 2010 |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting hzzh: Quote: Adding birthyear for Pedro Armendáriz (1912) to distinguish him from his son Pedro Armendáriz (1940).
Pedro Armendáriz (1912) From Russia with Love http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Armend%C3%A1riz http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000784/
Pedro Armendáriz (1940), sometimes (but not always) credited as Pedro Armendáriz Jr. Licence to Kill, The Mask of Zorro, Original Sin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Armend%C3%A1riz_Jr. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001917/
1912 BY Contributed Profile Contribution Approved Nov 9 2010 I'm not entirely convinced of this yet. Firsty, I'm not buying the accented common name(s). As it stands, the CLT already has more titles for "Pedro Armendariz" - no accent - than "Pedro Armendáriz", and most of the remaining accented ones are incorrect IMDb-mined data. So as far as I can tell "Pedro Armendáriz (1912)" is certainly wrong. If anything, it seems like it should be "Pedro Armendariz (1912)". But even of that I'm not completely convinced. You're claiming that Jr.'s common name is the variant without the suffix. How do we know this? Again, the CLT shows an awful lot of "Jr." credits. I'm sure there are mistakes among them, but is there any indication that his common name really doesn't include the suffix? Because if his common name does include the suffix, we don't need (nor can we use) birth years here. |
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Registered: May 26, 2007 | Posts: 4 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting hzzh:
Quote: Adding birthyear for Pedro Armendáriz (1912) to distinguish him from his son Pedro Armendáriz (1940).
Pedro Armendáriz (1912) From Russia with Love http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Armend%C3%A1riz http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000784/
Pedro Armendáriz (1940), sometimes (but not always) credited as Pedro Armendáriz Jr. Licence to Kill, The Mask of Zorro, Original Sin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Armend%C3%A1riz_Jr. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001917/
1912 BY Contributed Profile Contribution Approved Nov 9 2010 I'm not entirely convinced of this yet. Firsty, I'm not buying the accented common name(s). As it stands, the CLT already has more titles for "Pedro Armendariz" - no accent - than "Pedro Armendáriz", and most of the remaining accented ones are incorrect IMDb-mined data. So as far as I can tell "Pedro Armendáriz (1912)" is certainly wrong. If anything, it seems like it should be "Pedro Armendariz (1912)".
But even of that I'm not completely convinced. You're claiming that Jr.'s common name is the variant without the suffix. How do we know this? Again, the CLT shows an awful lot of "Jr." credits. I'm sure there are mistakes among them, but is there any indication that his common name really doesn't include the suffix? Because if his common name does include the suffix, we don't need (nor can we use) birth years here. Pedro Armendáriz (1912) is credit as: Pedro Armendariz in 'From Russia with Love'. Pedro Armendáriz (1940) is credit as: Pedro Armendariz in 'Licence to Kill' Pedro Armendáriz in 'Original Sin' Pedro Armendariz in 'The Legend of Zorro' Pedro Armendariz in 'The Mask of Zorro' In these four movies the suffix Jr. is not included so a birth year is needed to distinguish him from his father as their names are identical. I agree that the common name in the credits is without the accent. |
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