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Let me quote Dan's post, from earlier today, again...

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The slip case cover type is intended to be used when it is the only case for the profile, as in for a box set.

This sentence is speaking of intent. It does not give any directives.

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If there is only one inner case, use the inner case type.

This sentence is clearly giving instructions.

How does that change anything?  All it does is confirm what I thought.  He intends for the slip case cover type to be used for box sets.

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You didn't misread anything at all.  Some people ARE trying to say those outer boxes should be called digipacks, and you can find a lot of them already in the system set up that way for the master.  Totally wrong.  Should be a slip case with digipacks inside.

Wrong!

Some people are saying if it's only ONE unit inside the slip case, we should go by the inner case. If there is more units inside the slip case, as in Hal's example, we should use slip case. That is what some people are saying

And just what do you call "one unit"?  I know some people on here think a season's worth of discs in a digipack is one unit.  They refuse to accept the fact that it is no different than a movie box set with 20 movies spread over 5 or 6 discs.  Those types of movie sets have to be profiled exactly the same as a TV season set.  A digipack is a container that holds ONE disc.  Put six of those together and you have a 6 disc digipack that is no different than a set of six keep cases.  Digipack is one of those words where both singular and plural are the same.  One unit is one disc, regardless of what type of mechanism is used to secure it in place.

Besides that, if you say a full season is just one unit, then how do you profile the parent?

Now, does somebody want to tell me again that determining whether or not its a boxset first isn't part of the problem? 

Just for arguments sake, if you had the capacity on a single disc to place an entire TV Season (this will come about eventually), and you put that disc in a digipack and then put that digipack in a slip case, what would be the correct case type for the "parent" profile?

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You didn't misread anything at all.  Some people ARE trying to say those outer boxes should be called digipacks, and you can find a lot of them already in the system set up that way for the master.  Totally wrong.  Should be a slip case with digipacks inside.

Wrong!

Some people are saying if it's only ONE unit inside the slip case, we should go by the inner case. If there is more units inside the slip case, as in Hal's example, we should use slip case. That is what some people are saying

And just what do you call "one unit"?  I know some people on here think a season's worth of discs in a digipack is one unit.  They refuse to accept the fact that it is no different than a movie box set with 20 movies spread over 5 or 6 discs.  Those types of movie sets have to be profiled exactly the same as a TV season set.  A digipack is a container that holds ONE disc.  Put six of those together and you have a 6 disc digipack that is no different than a set of six keep cases.  Digipack is one of those words where both singular and plural are the same.  One unit is one disc, regardless of what type of mechanism is used to secure it in place.

Besides that, if you say a full season is just one unit, then how do you profile the parent?

Now, does somebody want to tell me again that determining whether or not its a boxset first isn't part of the problem? 

Just for arguments sake, if you had the capacity on a single disc to place an entire TV Season (this will come about eventually), and you put that disc in a digipack and then put that digipack in a slip case, what would be the correct case type for the "parent" profile?

First, the number of discs is irrelevant.  Whether one disc has 6 movies on it, or 20 episodes, it is still a box set. Based on Ken's ruling several months ago of more than one movie or a season of episodes constituting a box set.

As a box set, the slip case becomes the parent, and the disc becomes the child.  All you gotta do is use the definition and you don't have to reinvent the wheel to do this stuff.

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How does that change anything?  All it does is confirm what I thought.  He intends for the slip case cover type to be used for box sets.

Great - I do too! But just for box sets. Not for single-keepcases-in-a-slipcase, not for digipaks-in-a-slipcase, not for snappers-in-a-slipcase,... Just for box sets - i.e. a "slip case" holding multiple, separately packaged discs. For the other examples I gave, Ken's instruction "If there is only one inner case, use the inner case type" applies.

Actually, with this new change in case type, the term 'Box Set' now only has one definition..."any release that includes more than one film."  So just for box sets would include anything that falls into that catagory.

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You didn't misread anything at all.  Some people ARE trying to say those outer boxes should be called digipacks, and you can find a lot of them already in the system set up that way for the master.  Totally wrong.  Should be a slip case with digipacks inside.

Wrong!

Some people are saying if it's only ONE unit inside the slip case, we should go by the inner case. If there is more units inside the slip case, as in Hal's example, we should use slip case. That is what some people are saying

And just what do you call "one unit"?  I know some people on here think a season's worth of discs in a digipack is one unit.  They refuse to accept the fact that it is no different than a movie box set with 20 movies spread over 5 or 6 discs.  Those types of movie sets have to be profiled exactly the same as a TV season set.  A digipack is a container that holds ONE disc.  Put six of those together and you have a 6 disc digipack that is no different than a set of six keep cases.  Digipack is one of those words where both singular and plural are the same.  One unit is one disc, regardless of what type of mechanism is used to secure it in place.

Besides that, if you say a full season is just one unit, then how do you profile the parent?

Now, does somebody want to tell me again that determining whether or not its a boxset first isn't part of the problem? 

Just for arguments sake, if you had the capacity on a single disc to place an entire TV Season (this will come about eventually), and you put that disc in a digipack and then put that digipack in a slip case, what would be the correct case type for the "parent" profile?

First, the number of discs is irrelevant.  Whether one disc has 6 movies on it, or 20 episodes, it is still a box set. Based on Ken's ruling several months ago of more than one movie or a season of episodes constituting a box set.

As a box set, the slip case becomes the parent, and the disc becomes the child.  All you gotta do is use the definition and you don't have to reinvent the wheel to do this stuff.

As far as I am concerned, the fact that it is a "box set" profile type is what is irrelevant.  The only thing that matters is how it is packaged to determine the "case type".

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How does that change anything?  All it does is confirm what I thought.  He intends for the slip case cover type to be used for box sets.

Great - I do too! But just for box sets. Not for single-keepcases-in-a-slipcase, not for digipaks-in-a-slipcase, not for snappers-in-a-slipcase,... Just for box sets - i.e. a "slip case" holding multiple, separately packaged discs. For the other examples I gave, Ken's instruction "If there is only one inner case, use the inner case type" applies.

Actually, with this new change in case type, the term 'Box Set' now only has one definition..."any release that includes more than one film."  So just for box sets would include anything that falls into that catagory.

And not for TV Sets?

That doesn't make sense!

At the moment, TV Sets do not fall under the catagory of 'Box Sets'.  If they did, child profiles would not be optional.  It may not make sense, but those are the rules.

I think (hope) what Ken was saying is that...

Any slipcase that contains one movie in a single keep case, digipack, slimpak, what have you.. that case type is decieded by what holds the disc.

However, if a digipak or fat keep case holds mutiple movies on multiple discs and is contained in a slip case, the slip case is what you use for the case type of the box set (parent) profile.

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Has anyone tried to PM ken and/or Gerri for some type of clarification?

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At the moment, TV Sets do not fall under the catagory of 'Box Sets'.  If they did, child profiles would not be optional.  It may not make sense, but those are the rules.

No... but do we know if Ken used the definition of Box set made in the rules or did he use it as most people would... a collection of physical items inside a box?

I think Ken made his statement so vague just because he wanted to see for how many pages we could argue.