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I have another one, would really appreciate an official Invelos response on this.
Ken are you allowed to contribute changes to DVDs you don't own?

Pete quoted Gerri's comment on this on page 1 of this thread:

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Gerri has posted about this before. She came out against it in general...

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In general we don't recommend submitting cast and crew for DVDs that you don't own because there can be discrepancies between localities, editions, and cuts (for example) and it can be difficult to validate without actually owning the DVD.

-Gerri

So I would take that as only update the actual DVD you own.

Quoting ninehours:

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I have another one, would really appreciate an official Invelos response on this.
Ken are you allowed to contribute changes to DVDs you don't own?

And are you allowed to contribute those changes to Profiles which are independent from a disc you don't own?

Ken, will you rename the "Owned" tab?

Will you check the physical media just in time of the contribution?

I'm wondering how The infamous Internet Movie Database handles the possession problem in order to avoid faulty contributions.

A thought, maybe you should have to have the disc in the drive to contribute changes to the Profile as confirmation to the programme that you own the disc?   
this of coarse would not apply to Pre-release Profiles.

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A thought, maybe you should have to have the disc in the drive to contribute changes to the Profile as confirmation to the programme that you own the disc?   
this of coarse would not apply to Pre-release Profiles.

Nice idea, but that would prevent those who don't have dvd-roms in their PCs from contributing. Not very likely these days, but still a possibility. I do recall some users saying they made profiles by watching the dvd on their TV, pause button at the ready, with a laptop.

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Quoting ninehours:

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A thought, maybe you should have to have the disc in the drive to contribute changes to the Profile as confirmation to the programme that you own the disc?   
this of coarse would not apply to Pre-release Profiles.

Nice idea, but that would prevent those who don't have dvd-roms in their PCs from contributing. Not very likely these days, but still a possibility. I do recall some users saying they made profiles by watching the dvd on their TV, pause button at the ready, with a laptop.

That is how I do it and I, almost, always forget to pop the disc into my laptop to get the disc ID.

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I only know of one user who even does this. How big is this problem?

There are only a few that I have seen doing this, but I have to chuckle and shake my head at some of the replies.  I seem to recall Skip trying to do this a while back and getting hammered for meddling in localities other than his own. 

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Quoting m.cellophane:

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I only know of one user who even does this. How big is this problem?

There are only a few that I have seen doing this, but I have to chuckle and shake my head at some of the replies.  I seem to recall Skip trying to do this a while back and getting hammered for meddling in localities other than his own. 

My reply is in the context of whether or not this is a problem that is serious enough to warrant the design of a program block. I personally don't think the "problem" warrants it.

I hope your reply isn't meant to imply that I hammered Skip. I thought it was a good plan because I want to see the CLT improved, but I said the practice was against the rules and against Ken's comments. Skip thought I was against him because of that and it got quite heated, but I still thought it was a good idea. I would do it myself if it weren't for what I believe is Invelos' position against it.

It was in that old thread where I PM'd Gerri to provide guidance and she popped in with the quote that Pete quoted on page 1. As I just perused that thread again (LINK    ), I see I had posted a quote from Ken that also speaks to this issue:

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The lookup tool is not to be blindly trusted, however it does outweigh other sources, including autographs.  The common name is not intended to always reflect the "real name", but the most commonly credited name. 

However, if a user documents errors in the database where the credit is not entered properly, that can and should be considered.  Better yet, correct the entries, assuming you own the discs in question, thereby correcting the lookup results.

The bolding is mine. I think it's clear from his comment and Gerri's that they expect you to own the disc for the profile you are updating. I wish we could update the same film across the board. I feel we could manage the few errors that would result and that would be preferable to the current system with very, very bad legacy cast and crew data sitting there untouchable to most of us. That's why I thought Skip's project was a good idea, but it needed Invelos' blessing...which it did not receive.

All this to say: I was not one of those who hammered Skip on the basis of his idea. I like the idea but just felt we couldn't execute it without permission from Invelos.

We have a user that is copying cast and crew from the dutch version to all other profiles to include the Blu-ray profiles. I have found problems with every contribution that was copied.
If the user had actually own the other profiles, the user would not have contributed bad data. This kinda action should be against the rules.