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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Lopek:
You have blown your crediility, as have a few other users, simply put I don't TRUST anything you have to say. Dan I do trust.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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 | Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | You two kids stop it! | | | | Dan |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Andy & Skip...am I going to have to give you two a timeout?  | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan W: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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Dan, the grandfather Rule no longer applies.
Skip
Fine, the list doesn't match. End of discussion. Yea, I looked at the list and the entire cast list matches with the exception of one voice only role...are you guys really going to hang your hat on that one role?  And, for the record, I disagreed with Skip long before he made his opinion known...wait a minute...maybe Skip is disagreeing with me on purpose.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | <scratching head> Disagreed with me on what?
John's overall changes to the cast are fine, for (uncredited) it is similar to but NOT a clone of TWSNBN.
For example TWSNBN lists Ryker's man our listing is Ryker's Man.
I did take note of at least one more modification that could be made to further break the connection, but the data is not identical.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
<scratching head> Disagreed with me on what? Disagreed with you on it being a match to IMDb. Quote:
John's overall changes to the cast are fine, for (uncredited) it is similar to but NOT a clone of TWSNBN.
For example TWSNBN lists Ryker's man our listing is Ryker's Man.
I did take note of at least one more modification that could be made to further break the connection, but the data is not identical.
Skip Now see, I wouldn't hang my hat on one using upper case and the other using lower case. But that's just me...and...I guess...Rifter. Someone help me I am in Bizarro world. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Uncus:
Let's look at it from a slightly different viewpoint. There are rare ocassion when TWSNBN gets it right, does that mean if they get the data before we do we can't use it, by your rationale, I would be willing to argue that case even though I am not an attorney...it sounds fun. I am trying to find a middle ground between the extreme of grandfathering in clearly scraped data, and the other extreme of summarily removing most all of the (uncredited) data. I recognize going forward (uncredited) will become a rare and far more correct commodity than currently at TWSNBN, but for old data, I am simply trying to find amiddle ground and I think that is it.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting skipnet50:
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<scratching head> Disagreed with me on what?
Disagreed with you on it being a match to IMDb.
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John's overall changes to the cast are fine, for (uncredited) it is similar to but NOT a clone of TWSNBN.
For example TWSNBN lists Ryker's man our listing is Ryker's Man.
I did take note of at least one more modification that could be made to further break the connection, but the data is not identical.
Skip
Now see, I wouldn't hang my hat on one using upper case and the other using lower case. But that's just me...and...I guess...Rifter. Someone help me I am in Bizarro world. Caps???? Who's talking about caps??? The cast list is different. I can't be the only one who sees more uncredited people listed on IMDB than what is in the old profile. | | | | Dan | | | | Last edited: by Dan W |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Uncus:
Let's look at it from a slightly different viewpoint. There are rare ocassion when TWSNBN gets it right, does that mean if they get the data before we do we can't use it, by your rationale, I would be willing to argue that case even though I am not an attorney...it sounds fun. I am trying to find a middle ground between the extreme of grandfathering in clearly scraped data, and the other extreme of summarily removing most all of the (uncredited) data. I recognize going forward (uncredited) will become a rare and far more correct commodity than currently at TWSNBN, but for old data, I am simply trying to find amiddle ground and I think that is it.
Skip Believe me, I want the same middle ground but I can see Rifter's point of view. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan W: Quote:
The cast list is different. I can't be the only one who sees more uncredited people listed on IMDB than what is in the old profile. I agree with you, Dan. Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
There are rare ocassion when TWSNBN gets it right, does that mean if they get the data before we do we can't use it I agree with you, Skip.  | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's the uncredited cast list from the current profile:
Ewing Miles Brown ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Bill Cartledge ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Chester W. Hannan ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
George J. Lewis ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Rex Moore ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Howard Negley ... Pete 'Yank' Potts, Harmonica (uncredited)
Charles Quirk ... Clerk (uncredited)
Steve Raines ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Jack Sterling ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Beverly Washburn ... Ruth Lewis (uncredited)
Henry Wills ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
And here's the uncredited cast from IMDB:
Ewing Miles Brown ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Bill Cartledge ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Chester W. Hannan ... Ryker man (uncredited)
George J. Lewis ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Rex Moore ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Howard Negley ... Pete 'Yank' Potts, harmonica player (uncredited)
Charles Quirk ... Clerk (uncredited)
Steve Raines ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Jack Sterling ... Ryker man (uncredited)
George Stevens ... Knock him into that pigpen, Chris! (voice) (uncredited)
Beverly Washburn ... Ruth Lewis (uncredited)
Henry Wills ... Ryker man (uncredited)
I have to admit, the only difference I can see is the addition of George Stevens on IMDB, oh and the added "player" which may have been a space thing in our list.
Having said that, I'm on the side of keeping the data unless you can show that it's wrong. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dan W: Quote:
Caps???? Who's talking about caps??? Um...Skip did. He said the cast list were different because one said 'Ryker's man' (lowercase m) and the other said 'Ryker's Man' (uppercase M). Quote:
The cast list is different. I can't be the only one who sees more uncredited people listed on IMDB than what is in the old profile. IMDb has 12 uncredited and Profiler has 11. I already admitted that fact on page 3. But I didn't look at just the uncredited. I looked at the entire cast list. The only way, that I can think of, to not see that the two cast list match is if you don't want to see it. But that's just me. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Dan W | | Registered: May 9, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 980 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here's the uncredited cast list from the current profile:
Ewing Miles Brown ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Bill Cartledge ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Chester W. Hannan ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
George J. Lewis ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Rex Moore ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Howard Negley ... Pete 'Yank' Potts, Harmonica (uncredited)
Charles Quirk ... Clerk (uncredited)
Steve Raines ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Jack Sterling ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Beverly Washburn ... Ruth Lewis (uncredited)
Henry Wills ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
And here's the uncredited cast from IMDB: Differences noted in bold red
Ewing Miles Brown ... Ryker Man (uncredited)
Bill Cartledge ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Chester W. Hannan ... Ryker man (uncredited)
George J. Lewis ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Rex Moore ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Howard Negley ... Pete 'Yank' Potts, harmonica player (uncredited)
Charles Quirk ... Clerk (uncredited)
Steve Raines ... Ryker man (uncredited)
Jack Sterling ... Ryker man (uncredited)
George Stevens ... Knock him into that pigpen, Chris! (voice) (uncredited)
Beverly Washburn ... Ruth Lewis (uncredited)
Henry Wills ... Ryker man (uncredited)
With this... I think we're OK. Leave it there. | | | | Dan | | | | Last edited: by Dan W |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,203 |
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Caps???? Who's talking about caps???
The cast list is different. I can't be the only one who sees more uncredited people listed on IMDB than what is in the old profile. Wasn't that what you just posted? Now, not only are you pointing out the caps but you are highlighting the word 'player' which was obviously left out because of the field length? Like I said, it sure seems like it is a matter of 'not wanting to see it'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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