Quoting Unicus69:

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WSDHE is simply the name they have adopted for 'name recognition'.

And name recognition is precisely the reason I want to be able to track Disney DVDs.  It makes a whole lot more sense to me to remember which of my DVDs are "Disney DVDs" than which ones are BVHE or WDSHE.  Especially when you consider that while all Disney DVDs might be BVHE (or WDSHE), not all BVHE (or WDSHE) DVDs are not Disney titles.

And I object to being told I should keep this local because Disney DVD is not a "company."  My response to that is, "So what!"  As Unicus points out above, BVHE isn't really a company, either, just the name of a distribution arm of the parent Disney company.

Quoting scotthm:

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The problem is the same as the one I have with entering "Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation" in the online database.  Of course I can enter it locally, and do (as you can with your cherished data), but people here have a phobia about it.  Likewise, the Rules say "publishing company", and so it goes...

I find your "cherished data" crack insulting.  But to answer your concern about Twentieth... , there has been an official decision (by Ken Cole) with respect to Twentieth Century Fox, etc., but none with respect to what constitutes a company.  So as long as there is an available slot that I can use for Disney DVD and until there's a rule that excludes it, I don't think it's appropriate to vote NO.

Quoting kdh1949:

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I object to being told I should keep this local because Disney DVD is not a "company."  My response to that is, "So what!"  As Unicus points out above, BVHE isn't really a company, either, just the name of a distribution arm of the parent Disney company.

A subsidiary can still be a 'company':

Buena Vista Home Entertainment Inc.

BUENA VISTA HOME ENTERTAINMENT, INC.

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I find your "cherished data" crack insulting.

I'm sorry, but I can't control your feelings.  It's not worth getting yourself upset about.

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there has been an official decision (by Ken Cole) with respect to Twentieth Century Fox, etc., but none with respect to what constitutes a company.

It's not really hard to figure out whether or not a brand name is a company.  It appears to be somewhat more difficult to determine which subsidiaries of a large corporation are responsible for publication and distribution of various product.

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So as long as there is an available slot that I can use for Disney DVD and until there's a rule that excludes it, I don't think it's appropriate to vote NO.

I think it is, because it's not a company, and we both know that.

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Quoting Gemini76:

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I can repeat my post if it was hard to see, but the rules state:

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Do not abbreviate Studio names. e.g, use Universal Pictures not just Universal; The Criterion Collection rather than Criterion or Criterion Collection; Walt Disney Pictures not just Disney or Disney DVD.

This rule refers to 'studio' names, not Media Companies.

I gotta agree with you there Patsa.

Quoting northbloke:

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I always thought we were given three fields so we could record up to three pieces of information: the distributor, the publisher and the label.
I have no objections to anyone adding Disney DVD, or Dimension Extreme or any of the other labels that companies use.
Of course if the rules are change to exclude these, so be it, but it did seem to me at the time that's what the extra fields were for.

Ditto. I was under the impression that's what the fields were for and since no distinction has been made other than what some people want, I don't see a single ounce of harm in it. Put Disney DVD in. You'll get a yes vote from me if I own it.

Quoting Unicus69:

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Quoting Gemini76:

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I can repeat my post if it was hard to see, but the rules state:

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Do not abbreviate Studio names. e.g, use Universal Pictures not just Universal; The Criterion Collection rather than Criterion or Criterion Collection; Walt Disney Pictures not just Disney or Disney DVD.

This rule refers to 'studio' names, not Media Companies.

Thanks, you're right. I just presumed as media companies isn't mnetioned in the rules, that they were the same deal. But it really says studios, so I should know better than to presume anything.

So I guess as media companies isn't mentioned in the rules, anything goes. But I guess it should be a media company at least, to earn the right to be accepted.

To me Disney DVD is just a label, but I wouldn't know if they'd actually made it into a company. In the way Dolby and THX is also labels or standards to, but I also think they are real companies. Disney DVD isn't a standard though.

Quoting Unicus69:

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I have a contribution pending for 'Aladin' (786936-223996).  In that contribution I added, to the existing BVHE, the following entries:  'Walt Disney Home Entertainment' and 'Disney DVD'.  I have gotten 4 'no' votes.  Of those 4, only 2 gave actual reasons for their vote...""Disney DVD" is not a company." & "isn't "Disney DVD" a brand, not a MC?"

Where I have a problem with these 'no' votes is the fact that WDHE isn't a company either...it's a 'label'.

This brings me to my question...what constitutes a Media Company?

"Disney DVD" is a correct entry for the MC section.

Quoting Unicus69:

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Without a clear definition, we are going to have people interpreting this section in several different ways.  That always leads to problems. 

That's it. I personally have no problems one way or the other, as long as the rules tell us what to do.