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Socialism has never worked, ever.  For all its faults, the US is the economic pit bull in the world, and is the strongest militarily, and politically, and its citizens have more freedom than any other country in the history of the world.  And that's ALL due to capitalism.

You can believe that or not as you see fit.  But, I can stand on any corner in the US and say that, but I wouldn't try it in very many other places around the world.  You'd get arrested at least, and maybe even shot out of hand, in far too many places that think WE are the evil in the world.

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So New Line own the rights to the LoTR story (a British story, but don't go there! ) and instigate the process to make the film. In that case, Aardman could have got it and made it in plasticine.

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And did New Line even care if it got made? Just how many ideas do producers have that never happen because the money isn't right? Look how quick they've been to dump Jackson over money. They don't care about artistic integrity. I do and that is what influences how I use CoO, because it's that angle I want to track.

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I'm afraid she is. The COO for LotR is New Zealand, not the US. Strange how some people want to claim anything good to be theirs. There are probably Americans who are very unhappy that New Zealand could make such a good set of films.

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However, I am quite happy to concede Showgirls, Howard the Duck, Daredevil, and Alien vs. Predator to the US.

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And here we go again with the "Ain't America Great Folks" irrelevances... please tell us about your military again Rifter, all us backwards foreign types love to hear about that too!   

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And here we go again with the "Ain't America Great Folks" irrelevances... please tell us about your military again Rifter, all us backwards foreign types love to hear about that too!   

To be fair, Rifter didn't start the 'pro' or 'anti' conversation.  Another user started out by making, obvious, anti-American statements.  While I don't like political discussion, for this very reason, hanging it all on Rifter is being unfair.  He is simply responding to people pushing his buttons. 

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The problem with Gerri's post is that the production company for LoTR (WingNut) is based in New Zealand.
So does Gerri think the production company was based in the US or does she class New Line (the funder/distributor) as the production company?
We need clarification on what Invelos think "production company" means. Is it the company that fund the film, make the film or distribute the film?

People seem to think that New Line isn't a production company because it is a movie studio.  I am not sure why that is so let us define a production company.  From Wikepedia:

Production company refers to a company responsible for the development and physical production of performing arts, film, radio or a television program. The company may also be directly responsible for the raising of funding for the production or may do so through an intermediary. The production company may be a small company, selling its product to a film studio or presenting it at a theatrical venue, or, in the case of film and television, it may be the studio itself.

That is the standard definition of a production company.  Both New Line and WingNut fall into this category.  Because both companies fall into that category we have to decide which one takes priority.

New Line was responsible for the development, raising of funding, presenting it at a theatrical venue and it was the studio itself.  WingNut was responsible for the physical production.  In my book, New Line was responsible for more things and took the bigger risk...that is why they are listed first in the credits.

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that of the principal offices of the production company by whom the work
was made.

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Production company - the name of the company under whose financial, technical, and
organizational management a moving image work is made. In a broad sense, the
production company is responsible for the overall creation of the work.

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When more than one corporate name is associated with a particular function, as in the
case of international co-productions, list the places, names, and dates of production first,
followed by those for cooperation, sponsorship, presentation, studios, laboratories, and
distribution/release, as appropriate. Within functions, list places, names, and dates in an
appropriate order (as found on the copy held, chronologically, etc.). Archives will normally
choose a method of ordering multiple names within functions, and should try to coordinate this
choice with that for choice of order for parallel titles (cf. 1.3.3).