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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Rioght use the Rating case, Rick. And we are interested. that's why the program ONLY deals with TV Ratings and MPAA ratings, Knock yourself out trying to add what he wants, YOU CAN'T. Yet it's NOT obvious that we are after "formal" ratings not Distributor invented ratings. Uh Huh!!!!!!!!!!

It's really awful when the FACTS blow up your beautiful theory isn't it. It is OBVIOUS what the Rules are after when you couple it to the program and since the Rules exist because of the program....it's called use one's head. You and Ace can hallucinate all you want but the facts are the facts and we are concerned with "formal" ratings not invented ones and THAT is very clear.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
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Fine, you want to be argumentative, how normal is that. NOT. I stand by my comment...not to my knowledge...that doesn't mean I know aALL of the dozens of theaters in the area, just most of them.

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4 people just said your statement is . I even gave you examples. but you stand by it instead of just admitting you are wrong. And you wonder why you aren't taken seriously .
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Directly from the rules:

"Rating
Use the Rating shown on the DVD cover. When there is no rating indicated or no rated version of the film on the disc, use the NR rating. Use the “Adult” rating for all Adult films.

Enter rating details as shown, excluding the rating itself and trailing period. e.g. "Rated R for sci-fi violence and brief language." is entered as "Sci-fi Violence and Brief Language". Obtain the rating details in order of preference from:

    * DVD case, usually on the bottom rear
    * Rating page displayed on-screen
    * Filmratings.com, or the equivalent region-specific ratings information website

For English profiles, capitalize all words except joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. For non-English profiles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the profile, as commonly used for titles. In all cases, the first word will be automatically capitalized in your submission."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
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Rioght use the Rating case, Rick. And we are interested. that's why the program ONLY deals with TV Ratings and MPAA ratings, Knock yourself out trying to add what he wants, YOU CAN'T. Yet it's NOT obvious that we are after "formal" ratings not Distributor invented ratings. Uh Huh!!!!!!!!!!

It's really awful when the FACTS blow up your beautiful theory isn't it. It is OBVIOUS what the Rules are after when you couple it to the program and since the Rules exist because of the program....it's called use one's head. You and Ace can hallucinate all you want but the facts are the facts and we are concerned with "formal" ratings not invented ones and THAT is very clear.


Again can you show in the rules where it explicitly says mpaa?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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Are you capable of having a conversation without resorting to snide and insulting remarks? 


Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?

Anyway, does anyone else object to list this sort of stuff under rating info?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
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Are you capable of having a conversation without resorting to snide and insulting remarks? 


Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?

Anyway, does anyone else object to list this sort of stuff under rating info?


If I saw the change I wouldn't have a problem voting yes.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributoreommen
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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So, as Kathy quoted the rules: "use the Rating shown on the DVD cover". The rest of those part of the rules are the "how to do it details".
Also stated by many by now, there is no rating by law in the USA; the MPAA is a private organisation with apparently no known special position set somewhere in law regarding the rating. In other words, a rating from a distributor is just as good (just following some standard legal reasoning).

Yes, I know the MPAA has a lot of clout. Yes, there is a wide variety on how distributors put it. Yes, it makes some sense to standardize on MPAA ratings because of the widespread use. But...

When the classification body was added to the data we register, there were reactions from many countries to make sure all applicable classification bodies were listed, including the variations that exist in how they classify. If I am not mistaken, a brief glance at the XML/file that holds that data will show that. No need to stop at TV and MPAA.

Unless the rules get adapted for the situation in the USA locality by putting the MPAA on a pedestal, Ace's proposals seem perfectly OK. After all, nobody questions it IS a rating and it IS on the DVD cover.

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Registered: April 17, 2008
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  I would like this. I just went through my collection trying to fix all the anime ratings and it would be nice to be able to put in the correct rating.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Are you capable of having a conversation without resorting to snide and insulting remarks? 


Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?

Anyway, does anyone else object to list this sort of stuff under rating info?

While I do agree that they are ratings, I believe the rules allow them to be placed in the Ratings Detail field.  I would not, however, object to it being added to the rules...maybe for films with 'non-standard ratings'.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Rioght use the Rating case, Rick. And we are interested. that's why the program ONLY deals with TV Ratings and MPAA ratings, Knock yourself out trying to add what he wants, YOU CAN'T. Yet it's NOT obvious that we are after "formal" ratings not Distributor invented ratings. Uh Huh!!!!!!!!!!

It's really awful when the FACTS blow up your beautiful theory isn't it. It is OBVIOUS what the Rules are after when you couple it to the program and since the Rules exist because of the program....it's called use one's head. You and Ace can hallucinate all you want but the facts are the facts and we are concerned with "formal" ratings not invented ones and THAT is very clear.


Again can you show in the rules where it explicitly says mpaa?

Again, Alioen, do you know how to read. The Rules and the Program are linked together. What Ratung systems are there
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Are you capable of having a conversation without resorting to snide and insulting remarks? 


Why do you ask questions to which you already know the answer?

Anyway, does anyone else object to list this sort of stuff under rating info?

Yes, I OBJECT, I don't object to iy being added for LOCAL content, but Contributable...no way. Like the additional fields for Genre.
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Rioght use the Rating case, Rick. And we are interested. that's why the program ONLY deals with TV Ratings and MPAA ratings, Knock yourself out trying to add what he wants, YOU CAN'T. Yet it's NOT obvious that we are after "formal" ratings not Distributor invented ratings. Uh Huh!!!!!!!!!!

It's really awful when the FACTS blow up your beautiful theory isn't it. It is OBVIOUS what the Rules are after when you couple it to the program and since the Rules exist because of the program....it's called use one's head. You and Ace can hallucinate all you want but the facts are the facts and we are concerned with "formal" ratings not invented ones and THAT is very clear.


Again can you show in the rules where it explicitly says mpaa?

Again, Alioen, do you know how to read. The Rules and the Program are linked together. What Ratung systems are there


The irony of you asking me if I know how to read with that mess of a sentence is superbly awesome.

Again, please show me where it says MPAA. That's all I ask. Show me that and I'll jump on your side.

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While I do agree that they are ratings, I believe the rules allow them to be placed in the Ratings Detail field.  I would not, however, object to it being added to the rules...maybe for films with 'non-standard ratings'.


Winna winna chicken dinnah!

That's a fantastic proposed solution.

To me, they are ratings. And as the rules stand now, IMO, are acceptable.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Except Alien that you cannot enter them, PERIOD it is IMPOSSIBLE, let alone think about Contributing. Because they are Distributor based ratings, nort ratings put out by any recognizable body, their rating are utterly meaningless, what is their basis, how is rating determined by them, is it based on sales...maybe. While i don't approve of any rating body, even the MPAA, let alone agree with their ratings, they are at least a"formal" ratings body that is NOT , I repeat NOT affiliated with any Studio or Distributor.

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Except Alien that you cannot enter them, PERIOD it is IMPOSSIBLE, let alone think about Contributing. Because they are Distributor based ratings, nort ratings put out by any recognizable body, their rating are utterly meaningless, what is their basis, how is rating determined by them, is it based on sales...maybe. While i don't approve of any rating body, even the MPAA, let alone agree with their ratings, they are at least a"formal" ratings body that is NOT , I repeat NOT affiliated with any Studio or Distributor.

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No, not impossible. Not by a long stretch.

Quoting Ace:
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Is it appropriate to put this info in rating details?


See, lookie there, they can go in the rating details. And it seems to be acceptable by the current rules, since they don't mention MPAA.

Maybe Ken can give us an opinion on this?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKathy
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Can anyone point out to me in the rules where distributor ratings are not acceptable.

If not, then the proposals presented for their inclusion seems correct to me.

If that is unacceptable then maybe the issue should be presented to the rules committee to assess.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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How would you put them in Kathy, they cannot be inserted into the program. They are NOT part of the MPAA ratings system and to try and pretend that they are and that the Ratings detail should be used is a flat out lie. You cannot at this time even put Distributor ratings in and keep them locally, which i would support.

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