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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Like YOU, maybe.  Was that really necessary, martian. I know you believe you are end all be all to parsing and over the years you have certainly caused more than your fair share of difficulties with the program but back handed insults are uncalled for.  You mean back handed insults like, "users who can't comprehend basics and users who twist and bend the rule, not to mention those that will not go any further than they must?" Are those the types of back handed insults you are talking about. My statement was exactly the same as your statement. How is it mine was uncalled for, yet you felt quite comfortable making yours?  Quote:
What makes me feel better, martian since you want to play this silly game, is the knowledge that you aren't half as smart as YOU think you are. Funny, I came to this same conclusion about you the other day...though it doesn't make me feel better. Makes me rather sad actually.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Like YOU, maybe. Was that really necessary, martian. I know you believe you are end all be all to parsing and over the years you have certainly caused more than your fair share of difficulties with the program but back handed insults are uncalled for.
You mean back handed insults like, "users who can't comprehend basics and users who twist and bend the rule, not to mention those that will not go any further than they must?" Are those the types of back handed insults you are talking about. My statement was exactly the same as your statement. How is it mine was uncalled for, yet you felt quite comfortable making yours?
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What makes me feel better, martian since you want to play this silly game, is the knowledge that you aren't half as smart as YOU think you are.
Funny, I came to this same conclusion about you the other day...though it doesn't make me feel better. Makes me rather sad actually. Did I name ANYONE or were you creating your own interpretation...I don't believe I named a single user. Does the shoe fit? Fascinating.  Permit me to point out that 'twas you who chose to open fire upon ME, I fired no shot at YOU. But I will return the fire. I find your sudden turn to complete lack of rational though to be highly discouraging. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Did I name ANYONE or were you creating your own interpretation...I don't believe I named a single user. Does the shoe fit? Fascinating.
Permit me to point out that 'twas you who chose to open fire upon ME, I fired no shot at YOU. But I will return the fire. I find your sudden turn to complete lack of rational though to be highly discouraging. Did I name ANYONE or were you creating your own interpretation...I don't believe I named a single user. Does the shoe fit? Fascinating. Permit me to point out that I uesd the word 'users' in my initial post. Like you, I did not name a single user. My post was exactly the same as your post. It is you who assumed my post was about you, so it was you who chose to open fire on me. But, hey, let's not let the facts get in the way here. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Did I name ANYONE or were you creating your own interpretation...I don't believe I named a single user. Does the shoe fit? Fascinating.
Permit me to point out that 'twas you who chose to open fire upon ME, I fired no shot at YOU. But I will return the fire. I find your sudden turn to complete lack of rational though to be highly discouraging.
Did I name ANYONE or were you creating your own interpretation...I don't believe I named a single user. Does the shoe fit? Fascinating.
Permit me to point out that I uesd the word 'users' in my initial post. Like you, I did not name a single user. My post was exactly the same as your post. It is you who assumed my post was about you, so it was you who chose to open fire on me. But, hey, let's not let the facts get in the way here. No, wrong, you QUOTED my post and answered, that's ummm pretty clear. All I did was answer a post made by Ace and quoted him so that he knew I was answering his post, not even insulting him; it was you who apparently felt i was shooting at you and...that is your belief, that's why I asked if the shoe fit It was YOU fired, amigo. But i don't hold it against you, just stop it. At least I don't stoop to mocking. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
No, wrong, you QUOTED my post and answered, that's ummm pretty clear. All I did was answer a post made by Ace and quoted him so that he knew I was answering his post, not even insulting him; it was you who apparently felt i was shooting at you and...that is your belief, that's why I asked if the shoe fit It was YOU fired, amigo. But i don't hold it against you, just stop it. At least I don't stoop to mocking. No, wrong, I did not quote your post. My post, the one you took offense to because it contained a back handed insult that you felt was aimed at you, does not contain a single quote. Don't believe me, just click here. See? No quotes, no edits, just a simple statement about 'users'. You responded to that general statement, with a post directed at me. How do I know it was directed at me? Because you used my handle. So, as I said earlier, it was you who apparently felt I was shooting at you and...that is your belief, which is why I also asked if the shoe fit. It was you who fired. And, yea, I do occasionaly stoop to mocking...but, at least I own it. I am not going to pretend that it wasn't me. Ignore them if you want, but those are the facts.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Anyway, since this entire discussion is pointless...and I don't want to incur the wrath of the moderators...I now return you to your regularly scheduled forum topic.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | C'mon children, behave. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Story by and based on a story by are the same thing. I disagree. "Based on a story by" implies a looser association with the original material than "story by" does. --------------- |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Story by and based on a story by are the same thing.
I disagree. "Based on a story by" implies a looser association with the original material than "story by" does.
--------------- scotthm is correct. Typically, a "Story By" credit means that the story was written specifically for the film in question; although it could also be a story based on other original material. "Based on a Story by" typically means that the story existed before the movie concept and the person who wrote it was normally not involved in the film production in any way. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Story by and based on a story by are the same thing.
I disagree. "Based on a story by" implies a looser association with the original material than "story by" does.
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scotthm is correct. Typically, a "Story By" credit means that the story was written specifically for the film in question; although it could also be a story based on other original material.
"Based on a Story by" typically means that the story existed before the movie concept and the person who wrote it was normally not involved in the film production in any way. In that case, making based on a story by OMB woudl make sense, but do we actually know this is the case? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hal that is not what scott said.
Scott said
""Based on a story by" implies a looser association..." There is a HUGE difference between what Scott said and what you are claiming.
As Ace noted, we can't KNOW that to be a fact.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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Story by and based on a story by are the same thing.
I disagree. "Based on a story by" implies a looser association with the original material than "story by" does.
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scotthm is correct. Typically, a "Story By" credit means that the story was written specifically for the film in question; although it could also be a story based on other original material.
"Based on a Story by" typically means that the story existed before the movie concept and the person who wrote it was normally not involved in the film production in any way.
In that case, making based on a story by OMB woudl make sense, but do we actually know this is the case? Nothing is 100%. What I have stated is "typical". Although not a "sanctioned" resource, as I'm sure someone will point out, definitions for writing credits can be found HERE. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Then you should not misconstrue the words of another user to try and make a point Hal.
Like I said there is a HUGE difference between what he really said , and what you pretended he said. And that too is a FACT.
You state correctly that we can't know 100% and that is correct because we are NOT in a position to KNOW. That uis why I only deal with the DATA, not what my imagination says and I don't go running around looking for some third source to suppoprt d fiction. I deal ONLY with the data.
We are always going to be at odds, hal, because I do deal only with the data, I never deal with fiction or imagination.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is not imagination that "Story By" and "Based on a Story By" are NOT the same credit. Anybody with eyes can see that the data is different! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
It is not imagination that "Story By" and "Based on a Story By" are NOT the same credit. Anybody with eyes can see that the data is different! Indeed. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
It is not imagination that "Story By" and "Based on a Story By" are NOT the same credit. Anybody with eyes can see that the data is different! Third this. The link you posted from the WGA does indeed seem to make it clear. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
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