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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Just get rid of the prohibition on possessives and follow the data.
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No, thanks. I not big on fictitious titles. Not big on reality?  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I don't think reversing the position on possessives is the right way to go. Perhaps a possessives field (optionally shown as part of the title locally) would be the way to go. Without an OMB credit where appropriate? | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I don't think reversing the position on possessives is the right way to go. Perhaps a possessives field (optionally shown as part of the title locally) would be the way to go. I have to respectfully disagree ken. It never should have been done in the first place, data is data, and data is not judged based on like or disklike, it IS. Like I said I use the possessives locally and I have no problem with sorting or even finding a title in a search. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Not sure I follow you there. "Ten Little Indians" is the title of the film; the name of the book was "And Then There Were None" (changed from original less than PC title). I misunderstood the picture, I thought this was about Goldfinger... somehow being based on Ten Little Indians! | | | | Hans | | | | Last edited: by Staid S Barr |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Quoting Ken Cole:
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I don't think reversing the position on possessives is the right way to go. Perhaps a possessives field (optionally shown as part of the title locally) would be the way to go.
I have to respectfully disagree ken. It never should have been done in the first place, data is data, and data is not judged based on like or disklike, it IS. Like I said I use the possessives locally and I have no problem with sorting or even finding a title in a search.
Skip Well then we should also have titles like: Disney Old Dogs Walt Disney Presents College Road Trip Randy Couture The Scorpion King 2: Rise of a Warrior Stallone Rambo Alfred Hitckcock's North by Northwest Ellen Burstyn Kris Kristofferson in Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore After all, if we are unable to distinguish when a "possessive" does not belong in the title, then surely we cannot distinguish when these other things that are on the front cover do not belong in the title! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | None of what you list are possessives, hal. Keep the mud out of the water. The subject is possessives.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Alfred Hitckcock's North by Northwest
is a legitimate possessive.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
None of what you list are possessives, hal. Keep the mud out of the water. The subject is possessives.
Skip I'm not following the logic of why we should allow something into the title field that is not part of the title just because it's a possessive? Using your hated "if/then" logic, "if there is extra data on the front cover, and it happens to be a possessive, then include it in the title; otherwise, don't". The title field should be precisely that: the "Title". | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Alfred Hitckcock's North by Northwest
is a legitimate possessive.
Skip  It may be a legitimate possessive, but it's not the title of the movie! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | When the Possessive is within the credit block on the back, what does this signify?
Is there some importance to this.
I know in Tim Buton's Corpse Bride, it was based on charactes by him, He also directed, and Produced.
I know Bram Stoker was not involved in the 1992 film, and Mary Shelley could not have been involved with the film Frankenstein (died in 1851)
Is there some standard that can be derived out of all the profiles we have?
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
After all, if we are unable to distinguish when a "possessive" does not belong in the title, then surely we cannot distinguish when these other things that are on the front cover do not belong in the title! Indeed. As to the rest, Ken already pointed out what I would have...that an OMB entry is not allowed under the current rules, though I have no problem with ammending the rules to allow it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
I don't think reversing the position on possessives is the right way to go. Perhaps a possessives field (optionally shown as part of the title locally) would be the way to go. I would like this option.  | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't care whether you like it or not, Hal. It IS a possessive, i don't judge data based on like or dislike, data is data. When you start scrambling trying to judge data based like or dislike you will ALWAYS cause problems, this thread is a case in point of exactly that.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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After all, if we are unable to distinguish when a "possessive" does not belong in the title, then surely we cannot distinguish when these other things that are on the front cover do not belong in the title!
Indeed. As to the rest, Ken already pointed out what I would have...that an OMB entry is not allowed under the current rules, though I have no problem with ammending the rules to allow it. I have a problem with ANY conditional it only breeds problem,s and confusion. We have PROVEN it time and time again. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
When the Possessive is within the credit block on the back, what does this signify?
Is there some importance to this.
Yes, it means that the possessive is actually part of the title. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I don't care whether you like it or not, Hal. It IS a possessive, i don't judge data based on like or dislike, data is data. When you start scrambling trying to judge data based like or dislike you will ALWAYS cause problems, this thread is a case in point of exactly that.
Skip Exactly where did I say I liked or did not like anything. What I said is, "Alfred Hitchcock's North By Northwest" is not the title of the movie. Pure and simple. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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