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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Here's a specific one that pops up a lot:

Based upon "Star Trek" Created by

I personally prefer "Created by" because the credit is more expansive than just characters, but encompasses an entire alternate universe.


The problem is that there is very often another person credited with "Created By" in these instances.

I do not believe they should get the same credit in DVDP.  That would be a corruption of the data, IMHO.

Personally, I think a "Based on "Star Trek" created by Gene Roddenberry" should get an OMB credit.  I view it as similar to a "Based on an Idea by..." or "Based on a concept by...", both of which would get OMB credits.

               

And further, I have NEVER seen what you are claiming, NOT ONCE, let alon your claim of often.

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I don't currently have access to my local db, but when i get home, I'll be happy to provide you with examples.

In the meantime, are you telling me that Gene Roddenberry should get a "Created By" credit for "Star Trek: Enterprise" when the man was long dead before it was produced?????

Did he telepathically transmit this idea to the producers from the great beyond?
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Please do, you have aroused my curiosity.3

And Absolutely

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Based on James' list, the following credits should be added to the chart:

Adapted by
Adapted from the [anything] by
Book of the Musical by
Book of the Musical Play by
From a [anything] by
Story Adaptation

Does that sound about right?  I wasn't sure how to do 'book'.
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Personally, I think a "Based on "Star Trek" created by Gene Roddenberry" should get an OMB credit.  I view it as similar to a "Based on an Idea by..." or "Based on a concept by...", both of which would get OMB credits.

Agreed.  Roddenberry created Star Trek, the original TV series.  Everything else was based on that.  The Profiler credit of 'Created by' should be reserved for a credit of 'Created by' only.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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Based on James' list, the following credits should be added to the chart:

Adapted by
Adapted from the [anything] by
Book of the Musical by
Book of the Musical Play by
From a [anything] by
Story Adaptation

Does that sound about right?

Inspired by?
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Based on James' list, the following credits should be added to the chart:

Adapted by
Adapted from the [anything] by
Book of the Musical by
Book of the Musical Play by
From a [anything] by
Story Adaptation

Does that sound about right?  I wasn't sure how to do 'book'.


"Concept by"?
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Personally, I think a "Based on "Star Trek" created by Gene Roddenberry" should get an OMB credit.  I view it as similar to a "Based on an Idea by..." or "Based on a concept by...", both of which would get OMB credits.

Agreed.  Roddenberry created Star Trek, the original TV series.  Everything else was based on that.  The Profiler credit of 'Created by' should be reserved for a credit of 'Created by' only.

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Based on James' list, the following credits should be added to the chart:

Adapted by
Adapted from the [anything] by
Book of the Musical by
Book of the Musical Play by
From a [anything] by
Story Adaptation

"Concept by"?

Does that sound about right?  I wasn't sure how to do 'book'.

Hmmm Concept......that's a broad term Let me explore it Hal. You and are discussing and I metion that i have an idea for a film, I lay out the concept for you, you decide to film it and you give me a credit for Concept...would that be OMB, to be honest i don't know.

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If the filmmakers believe that it is worthy of an onscreen credit, who am I to argue?  The only category it could possibly belong in would be OMB, IMHO.
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Based on James' list, the following credits should be added to the chart:

Adapted by
Adapted from the [anything] by
Book of the Musical by
Book of the Musical Play by
From a [anything] by
Story Adaptation

Does that sound about right?  I wasn't sure how to do 'book'.


"Concept by"?

I haven't seen a credit of 'Concept by'.  I have seen, 'Based on the Concept by', but that would be covered by the current "Based on [anything] By" credit.
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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I haven't seen a credit of 'Concept by'.  I have seen, 'Based on the Concept by', but that would be covered by the current "Based on [anything] By" credit.


I seem to recall having seen it at least once, but couldn't possibly remember where.

While we're building a list, we might as well include everything.....just in case!!!! 
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Personally, I think a "Based on "Star Trek" created by Gene Roddenberry" should get an OMB credit.  I view it as similar to a "Based on an Idea by..." or "Based on a concept by...", both of which would get OMB credits.

Agreed.  Roddenberry created Star Trek, the original TV series.  Everything else was based on that.  The Profiler credit of 'Created by' should be reserved for a credit of 'Created by' only.

Agree as well.  The credit says GR created "Star Trek," not Star Trek Enterprise.  GR clearly did not create Enterprise.
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are you telling me that Gene Roddenberry should get a "Created By" credit for "Star Trek: Enterprise" when the man was long dead before it was produced?????

He most certainly should not. It's OMB.
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I haven't seen a credit of 'Concept by'.  I have seen, 'Based on the Concept by', but that would be covered by the current "Based on [anything] By" credit.


I seem to recall having seen it at least once, but couldn't possibly remember where.

While we're building a list, we might as well include everything.....just in case!!!! 

I have seen it, but i don't think I have looged it, I'll check in a little bit
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Personally, I think a "Based on "Star Trek" created by Gene Roddenberry" should get an OMB credit.  I view it as similar to a "Based on an Idea by..." or "Based on a concept by...", both of which would get OMB credits.


In my personnel opinion this would one, on that also a OCB would be possible.

This is just my personnel understanding of these two credits:
OCB: Someone that wrote/had the idea of the original charactes, universe, ...
OMB: This one has to do something more: Some kind of idea of the whole story, ...
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