Quoting Corne:

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It's a shame that you want to get this to the forums without at least pm me first or give me the chance to react privately. I didn't expect that from you, but c'est la vie.

No offense intended - I just happened to stumble upon this thread just minutes after I worked my way through the pending updates. Since it was something I wasn't sure about, I thought I'd seize the opportunity to ask. I subsequently provided a link to this thread in my comment - in no way did I intend to offend or anything like that.

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They each have no separate crediting, so I don't see the problem?

The problem is that there simply are no dividers seen on-screen. Yes, three actors share the "New Year's Partyers" (sic) role name, and seven actors share the "Kennedy Mourners" role name, but there's no divider to be seen.

Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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I agree... You want to make it exactly as it is in the credits.

If in the credits it has...

Zombies
  Peter
  Chris
  Marc
  Mike

then that is how it should be in profiler.

But if it is actually...

Peter    Zombie
Chris    Zombie
Marc    Zombie
Mike    Zombie

in the credits... then it should be  that way in profiler. The biggest thing is to match the credits as closely as possible.

Agreed

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Quoting T!M:

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Quoting Corne:

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It's a shame that you want to get this to the forums without at least pm me first or give me the chance to react privately. I didn't expect that from you, but c'est la vie.

No offense intended - I just happened to stumble upon this thread just minutes after I worked my way through the pending updates. Since it was something I wasn't sure about, I thought I'd seize the opportunity to ask. I subsequently provided a link to this thread in my comment - in no way did I intend to offend or anything like that.

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They each have no separate crediting, so I don't see the problem?

The problem is that there simply are no dividers seen on-screen. Yes, three actors share the "New Year's Partyers" (sic) role name, and seven actors share the "Kennedy Mourners" role name, but there's no divider to be seen.

Okay, no hard feelings

But the problem is that they are credited as a group.

New Year's Partyers          A
                                      B
                                      C

Kennedy Mourners            A
                                      B
                                      etc.

I don't use the new Beta version, so I don't know how it will look like in that program. I always thought that actors that share the same role name, credited together and aren't credited separately could be submitted with dividers. Since when isn't that allowed?

We have never done dividers for these cases...  we always have changed plural versions to singular and added it to each. So something like that would be done...

New Year's Partyer          A
New Year's Partyer          B
New Year's Partyer          C

Kennedy Mourner            A
Kennedy Mourner            B
Kennedy Mourner            c

We don't use dividers unless there is dividers in the actual credits.

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Quoting Corne:

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Quoting T!M:

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Quoting Corne:

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It's a shame that you want to get this to the forums without at least pm me first or give me the chance to react privately. I didn't expect that from you, but c'est la vie.

No offense intended - I just happened to stumble upon this thread just minutes after I worked my way through the pending updates. Since it was something I wasn't sure about, I thought I'd seize the opportunity to ask. I subsequently provided a link to this thread in my comment - in no way did I intend to offend or anything like that.

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They each have no separate crediting, so I don't see the problem?

The problem is that there simply are no dividers seen on-screen. Yes, three actors share the "New Year's Partyers" (sic) role name, and seven actors share the "Kennedy Mourners" role name, but there's no divider to be seen.

Okay, no hard feelings

But the problem is that they are credited as a group.

New Year's Partyers          A
                                      B
                                      C

Kennedy Mourners            A
                                      B
                                      etc.

I don't use the new Beta version, so I don't know how it will look like in that program. I always thought that actors that share the same role name, credited together and aren't credited separately could be submitted with dividers. Since when isn't that allowed?

We have never done dividers for these cases...  we always have changed plural versions to singular and added it to each. So something like that would be done...

New Year's Partyer          A
New Year's Partyer          B
New Year's Partyer          C

Kennedy Mourner            A
Kennedy Mourner            B
Kennedy Mourner            c

We don't use dividers unless there is dividers in the actual credits.

Why isn't there anything about it in the rules?

All I can say is that is just one of the several situations that has yet to be added to the rules. That is nothing strange around here though.

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Quoting Addicted2DVD:

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Quoting Corne:

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Quoting Corne:

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It's a shame that you want to get this to the forums without at least pm me first or give me the chance to react privately. I didn't expect that from you, but c'est la vie.

No offense intended - I just happened to stumble upon this thread just minutes after I worked my way through the pending updates. Since it was something I wasn't sure about, I thought I'd seize the opportunity to ask. I subsequently provided a link to this thread in my comment - in no way did I intend to offend or anything like that.

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They each have no separate crediting, so I don't see the problem?

The problem is that there simply are no dividers seen on-screen. Yes, three actors share the "New Year's Partyers" (sic) role name, and seven actors share the "Kennedy Mourners" role name, but there's no divider to be seen.

Okay, no hard feelings

But the problem is that they are credited as a group.

New Year's Partyers          A
                                      B
                                      C

Kennedy Mourners            A
                                      B
                                      etc.

I don't use the new Beta version, so I don't know how it will look like in that program. I always thought that actors that share the same role name, credited together and aren't credited separately could be submitted with dividers. Since when isn't that allowed?

We have never done dividers for these cases...  we always have changed plural versions to singular and added it to each. So something like that would be done...

New Year's Partyer          A
New Year's Partyer          B
New Year's Partyer          C

Kennedy Mourner            A
Kennedy Mourner            B
Kennedy Mourner            c

We don't use dividers unless there is dividers in the actual credits.

Why isn't there anything about it in the rules?

It ends up being a problem in reports.  With a divider, the underlying credits are not credited with the role.  The divider was not really meant as a group header.  It was designed to divide cast and crew lists.  Where it is used is for TV series.  Each episode would have a divider and then you would list the cast/crew underneath it.  There isn't any indication when looking up the actor by himself, what episode he is in.  So for group headers, it really doesn't work.

With the new version, Ken added a group header.  This is what a lot of people had asked for.  Now if the credits say

Band 1
  actor
  actor
  actor...

We will be able to enter it as is on the screen, and the credit will follow the actor.  And if there are specific roles associated under that group, they will appear also.

It was always a program limitation, nothing more.

Charlie.