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Case Type for Digibooks?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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LOL, your view of some pages glued in the middle si totally different from my view but then I know something about Books and their manufacturing process. They print and assemble the book and glue the tray on the inside back, not the other way around.             And as I said a tray does not a case make. You also do not seem to understand GATEFOLD, call it whatever you like, Ace, it's a Digibook, which is not in our list yet and makes it a custom. Try reading the poll results, Ace, which does not support you odd claim.

I just have to remind myself that this is Ace, the same guy that believed ST IV was comedy over and above Sci-Fi/Action/Adventure.

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I have looked at the picture provided, over and over and over again, and it isn't a Digipak with pages glued into it.  It is a book with a disc holder glued into it.  I have a set, Forrest Gump, that has the exact same disc holder glued into a 'box of chocolates'.  Does that make it a Digipak?  I don't think so.
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I have looked at the picture provided, over and over and over again, and it isn't a Digipak with pages glued into it.  It is a book with a disc holder glued into it.  I have a set, Forrest Gump, that has the exact same disc holder glued into a 'box of chocolates'.  Does that make it a Digipak?  I don't think so.

ROFL, life is like a Box of chocolates....Ace might be in one of them.

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While the poll is going a clear direction I just wondered whether I could get a clear answer. Instead I am belittled

I just wonder who decided that gatefold is a digipak in DVDP and that the book shape form using the same tray as the gatefold is not

But I guess I can go with "because Skip tells me so".
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While the poll is going a clear direction I just wondered whether I could get a clear answer. Instead I am belittled

I just wonder who decided that gatefold is a digipak in DVDP and that the book shape form using the same tray as the gatefold is not

But I guess I can go with "because Skip tells me so".

I don't know who decided what, but I tried to explain why I think this isn't a digipak.  In my opinion, how the case is put together is more important than the plastic tray that holds the disc.  As I said, I have seen those discs glued into other things that I don't think anybody would consider a digipak.  I hope I didn't make you feel belittled as that was not my intent.
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I'm certainly no expert in the matter but the ideal would be that an additional case type be added to DVDP: digibook, to complement digipack.

However, since this is currently not the case it's a bit of a toss-up. It looks very similar to a digipack but I'd still go with custom. If this would only be one profile and the packing is only slightly different from a regular digipack, I would pick digipack. But there are multiple profiles with such casing, wich leads me to believe it's a different type of packaging than a normal digipack and as such I would go with custom.

But again, I'm certainly not the expert in the matter.
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While the poll is going a clear direction I just wondered whether I could get a clear answer. Instead I am belittled

I just wonder who decided that gatefold is a digipak in DVDP and that the book shape form using the same tray as the gatefold is not

But I guess I can go with "because Skip tells me so".

You weren't belittled, Achim. But it is bizarre to claim something simply on the basis of aAA plastic tray. If you can't see what a digibook is and that is not even related to a digipak at all, it doesn't even resemble one. Then I don't know what to say.

It's crazy, amigo

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I don't know who decided what, but I tried to explain why I think this isn't a digipak.  In my opinion, how the case is put together is more important than the plastic tray that holds the disc.  As I said, I have seen those discs glued into other things that I don't think anybody would consider a digipak.

I looked at the pictures in the official thread and still don't find the digibooks all that far removed from that. Anyway, I understand the idea here, had just hoped to get an explanation, other "this is it and the other is not". So far I see that most of us understand what a digipak is but can't really tell why.

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I hope I didn't make you feel belittled as that was not my intent.

No, you didn't. It's all good.
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I just have to remind myself that this is Ace, the same guy that believed ST IV was comedy over and above Sci-Fi/Action/Adventure.

What has this to do with the subject of the topic ? 

BTW, not sure which ST IV you are speaking of, but Sub Terminator IV and Super Titanic IV are indeed comedies  .
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Not sure what a Digipak is supposed to look like then. Alien Quardrilogy is not far removed from this, just there it's several digipak trays to a long foldable sheet of cardboard and here it's glued on one with some book pages added

What is a digipak...? What beyond the tray must be present to make it a digipak?

Achim:

I can't even put my response into words, it is far too demeaning of you. I have described what Digipak is, and it does not resemble a bound book. Have you even seen a Digibook? I doubt it, had you there could be little doubt as to the difference between a Digipak and a Digibook. You appropriately described a Digipak, that is called a gatefold layout. Books are not a gatefold layout. According to your description a computer book that has a disc would be a Digipak, ROFLMAO, at the thought. This happens to use a tray that is very similar to the trays used in a Digipak, but it is glued into the back of a BOOK. You should probably go out and buy one .

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According to your definition, it's a digipak.  I just looked at North by Northwest.  It is a gatefold layout.  There is a book glued into the gatefold, but it's still a gatefold layout.  Do you agree that if the book weren't in it, this would be a digipak?  I note that the wikipedia page on digipak says this:

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Digipaks typically consist of a gatefold (book-style) paperboard or card stock outer binding, with one or more plastic trays capable of holding a CD or DVD attached to the inside.
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I just have to remind myself that this is Ace, the same guy that believed ST IV was comedy over and above Sci-Fi/Action/Adventure.

What has this to do with the subject of the topic ? 

BTW, not sure which ST IV you are speaking of, but Sub Terminator IV and Super Titanic IV are indeed comedies  .

That's called a private joke, surfeur. I don't expect you to get it. But Ace and some others do.      

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Not sure what a Digipak is supposed to look like then. Alien Quardrilogy is not far removed from this, just there it's several digipak trays to a long foldable sheet of cardboard and here it's glued on one with some book pages added

What is a digipak...? What beyond the tray must be present to make it a digipak?

Achim:

I can't even put my response into words, it is far too demeaning of you. I have described what Digipak is, and it does not resemble a bound book. Have you even seen a Digibook? I doubt it, had you there could be little doubt as to the difference between a Digipak and a Digibook. You appropriately described a Digipak, that is called a gatefold layout. Books are not a gatefold layout. According to your description a computer book that has a disc would be a Digipak, ROFLMAO, at the thought. This happens to use a tray that is very similar to the trays used in a Digipak, but it is glued into the back of a BOOK. You should probably go out and buy one .

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According to your definition, it's a digipak.  I just looked at North by Northwest.  It is a gatefold layout.  There is a book glued into the gatefold, but it's still a gatefold layout.  Do you agree that if the book weren't in it, this would be a digipak?  I note that the wikipedia page on digipak says this:

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Digipaks typically consist of a gatefold (book-style) paperboard or card stock outer binding, with one or more plastic trays capable of holding a CD or DVD attached to the inside.
(emphasis added)

To some degree yes. I understand wiki's statement in that a Digipak in slip case does give the appearance of a Book in a slip case, where the analogy falls apart however is in the spine of the Digibook which is very clearly a book design. I can't speak to N by NW since I haven't see it out of its shrink wrap....yet. I have Bonnie & Clyde and How The West Was Won and I think i have one other one, and they are very clearly books with a tray glued to the back inside cover.

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I just got 300: the Complete Experience. Skip is right. It's a hardback book with a DVD holder in it. Unfortunately, this isn't very helpful as our case types are only defined by examples. The easiest solution would be for Ken to add digibook to the case type, though this would probably result in arguments of the Evil Dead: Book of the Dead editions.
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Thank you, Ace. I am unfamiliar with Evil Dead, not my kind of movie. But for now the only place it can be fit into is Custom and wait for Ken to add Digibook. We had to do this with Steelbook, for awhile too. I am sure that Ken will do this at some point, hoefully sooner, this would be an easy add on for 3.6. were I he, I would have done it already.

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Have you seen the Planet of the Apes set? It's also basically a hardback book with some DVDs, but the construction is quite different.

http://www.collider.com/dvd/news/article.asp/aid/9536/tcid/3

There's a good picture there.
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Yeah I know that one, and I think it clearly is not a Digibook but just a straight up custom, here's hoping that they don't do it again. I am running out of names.

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