I can only go by reading the rules.

Generalized is  to make vague or indefinite statements. Both disc level and that notation is generalized. but the notation is more so.

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I believe you are reading in something that's not there.  You can only create a season level profile if it has it's own unique identifier.  In this case it doesn't.  Where does it say you can take the Disc ID of the first child disc and use it for the Season level profile.  Why not use the second child disc ID or the third or the fourth?

If our search function wasn't so crappy, I might have been able to point you to the old post where Ken said to do so.

I guess he forgot to put it in the Rules....which is all that matters!

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I guess he forgot to put it in the Rules....which is all that matters!

If that is a plea for more frequent rule updates, you have my full support. Even basic stuff like the fact we're supposed to use "the most-credited" form for someone's common name (as opposed to the "real" or "correct" name) is not in the rules... 

Unfortunately, our pleas for more frequent updates to the Rules have pretty much fallen on deaf ears.

Much of the contention in this forum could be averted if updates were made as problems were uncovered (or maybe that's just wishful thinking).

Here Ken was asked this very question. Unfortunately he never answered again (at least not in that topic).

(And - if I might add - that topic [which has its second birthday soon] was populated by basically the same persons who are in this topic )

Well thanks for the "lively debate" - didn't realise it was such a hot topic 

I get the impression that until a Rule change or clarrification comes along it'll generally be first come, first served as neither has a specific precendence in the present Rule wordings and people also seem to have different preferences.

FWIW I personally like season profiles (and don't use disc level ones) and personally think the CAN in the Rules should be treated as a "Should if possible" (if 2 seasons are spread over 3 discs with the middle disc having some of each on then it's just not possible which is how I interpret the reason the Rule doesn't say MUST)

... but anyway, I guess I won't be overwriting T!M's hard prepared Van Der Valk discs anytime soon

Soooo... as a follow on question, is it possible to Lock down a profile totally BUT not have it come up every single time you do a Refresh Updated Profiles?

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You are "stealing" the Disc ID of the first child disc in order to profile this the way you want it done.

This has happened to several of my TV sets -- which were originally released season by season and profiled in the database accordingly.  Someone came along and added the "complete series" set and, as you describe it, "stole" the disc ID of the first disc, thereby overwriting the valid data for the disc 1 of each season.  When it came time to update the profiles with the new 3.5 version data, it got messy because the online profiles no longer match the original version.

For all other main database profiles we're supposed to go by the data from the original release, not the re-release.  Why should TV sets be any different?

I thought we were supposed to do disc-level profiles -- so each disc in the complete set should get its own unique child profile, the disc ID belonging to the single disc, not to the "annual" grouping.

I agree with Pete and Unicus.

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I am not clear here. There are several possibilities as I see it. For example: The X-Files Complete, I think, is merely the individual seasons packaged into a Master Boxset, so nothing changes. You add the master Boxset and then add the individual seasons with the children (which are now grandchildren) and you are done. The other way i have seen this done is ala the I Love Lucy Complete, which is just a bunch of discs removed from their ORIGINAL Season cases and thrown into a Complete set, you can see the handling for this in my own collection. The only reason to Contribute would be the Complete Box artwork, but that is not allowed per the Rules so I have the data and so does the Online. Paramount did the same type of thing with I Dream of Jeannie. It makesit a little awkward for the Online as, in both cases, the Master Boxset is there and available but since the Original links were based on Season sets, then one must do the download manually, but that's not really all that big a deal. All one needs to do is remember that at the online level we deal with ORIGINAL release data.<shrugs>

As a matter of fact for the Lucy boxset since, it is just discs in one big package, why would I be trying to create Season sets, since they don't exist in the set. That is something which I could do, if I wanted but it would have to be a manual profile and thus not Contributable. I am trying to think of the variations i have seen, so far. Get Smart was, not counting Time-Life, released to stores as a First Season, then the Complete series, but they are continuing to release the individual Seasons as Two is due

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