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Following the rules to the letter, TV series & direct to DVD films shouldn't have a "Production Year". Since that is obviously not the case, I honestly believe that either the rule should be updated as advised by several or change the field name (or both).

That is, partially, incorrect.  While the rules do not address direct to DVD releases, they do address TV series.  If you look at the 'TV Series on DVD' section, it tells you what to enter for the production year.

I think some people in these forum's, (not you directly Unicus), should re-read the rules regarding this as recent had a discussion regard people try to state that disc x should have a different production year to the rest, even though it was for episodes more than half way through a season/series.

Steve

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That is actually possible Steve... at least for the child profiles as each child profile will have it's own production year depending only on the episodes on that particular disc.

Going by the rules, it's the start of the season that's used, not the episodes -

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Complete Series/Season - Use the year that the Series/Season was produced and first aired in its country of origin. TV series are typically spread over a date range for a season, for example 2002-2003, for DVD Profiler purposes this will be entered as the beginning of the season; from the example the entry would be 2002.

Like Hal said... that is for the Parent profiles only. The disc level profiles is a completely different thing.

I understand "production year" as the year the movie was made/filmed. To me it's different from the "release year" (not talking about the DVD release year here), which to me means the year the movie was released/shown at movie theaters or on TV.

The wording is the problem, that's just my 2 cents.

Dirk

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This part of the Rules pertains to the Parent TV Season profile (the complete season).

The Child profiles are to follow the "standard contribution Rules", not the TV Rules..  Applying the standard profile Rules you would use the Production Year for what is on that Disc, not a completely different profile.

Yea, but then you run into the 'Theatrical Release Date' problem again.  That problem being, TV episodes don't have one. 

Yes, of course that is technically correct.  I think most people would agree that for TV episodes this would be equivalent to the air-date.

Uh-oh...I'm in trouble....I'm agreeing to "functional equivalents"!!!!!!   

Personally, I view TV in my home theater, so it's a theatrical release in my case anyway! 

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Yes, of course that is technically correct.  I think most people would agree that for TV episodes this would be equivalent to the air-date.

Uh-oh...I'm in trouble....I'm agreeing to "functional equivalents"!!!!!!   

Personally, I view TV in my home theater, so it's a theatrical release in my case anyway! 

I don't disagree with you, just pointing out the argument that was already made. 

I like the rule the way it is now. Some public domain titles have been stripped of their credits and therefore no longer have copyright dates in the film credits. I think the suggested change would lead to some very undesirable results.

I don't see why some people are so keen on using the theatrical release date. Changing this to the copyright date, makes it we have another field in the database where we no longer need a 3rd party database. What do you use as a source for the release date? IMDB? Do you have a 2nd independent source (not an IMDB copy) to prove that date is correct?

And for the issue of those few public domain titles that do not have a copyright date (what % of the entire database are we taking here, 0.01% ???), it's sufficient to add an exception to the rule, stating that if a copyright date is not available, the theatrical release date must be used.