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Quoting White Pongo, Jr.:

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Well, yes, but sometimes not even the screen credits get it right. I own some DVDs whose foreign original title has been translated in the credits, and the only way to find out the original title would be some sort of external documentation.

I get that. I just never encountered something like that - as I said earlier: maybe I just have the wrong movies.  Even if I did, I might just be perfectly content with profiling the title from the cover and the title from the credits. If there really was a third variant that I felt was important enough to store somewhere, I think I'd be happy to use the notes field. At least "take the title from the cover and the original title from the film's credits" has quite a lot less of the unfortunate (and needless) side effects that the current rule has - note that what we have now doesn't exactly deal very well with your example either.

For instance, I have an R1 copy of Dario Argento's "Il gatto a nove code" which shows on screen "THE CAT O'NINE TAILS", and nowhere on screen or on the cover can the original title be found.
Yes, of course I could use the notes to store the original title, but frankly I think that we should use the Original Title field for, guess what?, the Original Title! 

That's what the rules  already say:
Foreign Films: The Original Title field will contain the original title for the main feature in the country of origin.  i.e. A German DVD release for a film originally produced in the United States would have the German title in the Title field and the English title in the Original Title Field.

What I am saying is that, when the distributor translated the title on screen for international markets, 
the original title of a foreign movie can usually be documented.
Here is the authorized Dario Argento web site and some other sources stating the original title "Il gatto a nove code":
http://www.darioargento.it/filmografia/film/gatto9code.html
http://www.kinoeye.org/02/11/needham11_no2.php
http://www.moviehamlet.com/review/1849/the-cat-o-nine-tails
http://www.nndb.com/films/260/000108933/
http://www.bcult.it/movies.asp?id=76

Quoting T!M:

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Although I fully, fully agree that 'Zack and Miri Make a Porno' needs to be in the original title field (and would do so locally), it's not allowed per the rules. I've got many perfectly valid "original titles" declined thanks to this "copyright notice" part of the rule, and it's really time that it stops. I've asked to change that rule time and time again - maybe this time someone will listen.

The issue is that the rules on "original title" say: "Use the title from the copyright notice if available, otherwise from the film's credits." I have personally asked Ken to make the film credits the primary source, providing several very valid and obvious examples like this one, and he declined, saying that making the copyright notice the primary source was done consciously. So now we're stuck with it: if the copyright notice says 'Zack and Miri', then unfortunately, that's what the online database is stuck with. There really is no way around it - under the current rule, that is.

I suggest we all campaign to finally get this fixed.

Does it have to be the copyright notice from the cover, or can you take a copyright notice from the film's credits (if available)?

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The original title IS and WILL ALWAYS BE "ZACK AND MIRI MAKE A PORNO" , no matter what a fake cover at Walmart says!

greetings
Donnie

And this is what Kevin Smith had to say about the watered down Walmart cover:

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"Some Wal-Mart-er could buy it and think: 'Oh, Zack and Miri, looks lovely,' and pop it in and there's ... some pretty graphic stuff," said the indie icon, known for such slacker hits as "Clerks," "Chasing Amy," "Dogma" and "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back."

"I mean, at least with the word 'porno' in the title, you can kind of give people a warning about what they're in for."

Thanks for the speedy update Ken!

yay, would have been so stupid to use the wrong title from the cover

happy weekend all,
Donnie

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I second this emotion...that would be six, right?

   

   

Quoting W0m6at:

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Rules update:
February 4, 2009  Original Title rule changed

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Original Title
The Original Title field serves two general purposes, but in both cases allows for the tracking of the original feature title. Use the title from the film's credits. In cases where the title is the original title, leave the Original Title field blank.

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It would be nice to have announcements of rule changes and/or an RSS feed for the rules history page.

Thank goodness this has FINALLY been corrected!