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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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I repeat: as always, I'm simply following the rules, Skip. That's all.
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No you're not Tim, don't even try that canard. You do most of the time, I'll grant you that. But if there is an interpretation, then you believe your inyerpretation follows the Rules even if you are told otherwise.

Like I said you follow them most of the time .

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But if there is an interpretation, then you believe your inyerpretation follows the Rules even if you are told otherwise.

Unsurprisingly, that all depends on who's telling me, and if what they're telling me makes any sense or not. Also, you seem to forget that you're obviously not exactly in the best position to say "even if you are told otherwise": you have a rather long track record of not accepting ANYTHING from ANYBODY - even if they're just cold, hard facts. Better yet: I can easily show at least two solid examples from recent months where you flat-out refused to accept a verdict made by Ken himself, and even kept voting against contributions following Ken's specific instructions to the letter. "Even if you are told otherwise", indeed. 

As for the rules: I try very hard not to interpret anything, or at least as little as possible, and I've often asked for rule clarifications on sections of which I felt they weren't clear. I'm not biased by any kind of "special knowledge", nor am I bothered by various snippets of "intent", which have, in the past, proven to differ greatly between the various people that provided some input to the rules at some point along the line. I just look at what's in the rules TODAY, and try to work with that to the best of my abillity. I'm also a very active contributor, which gives me plenty of opportunity to put my rather factual reading of the rules to the test. If I'd be getting clear signals I was doing something wrong, I'd stop doing it. Heck, I'm perfectly happy to keep my work local if nobody wants it. As of yet, both the voters and the screeners seem very happy with it, though.

As Ken pointed out himself once: we shouldn't let one or two users' sense of accuracy run this program into the ground. Judging by what goes on in the forums, I sometimes can't help feeling that it's looking a bit like that, though.
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Sometimes all you can do is shake your head.


I do, but all that rattling gives me a headache   .
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Sometimes all you can do is shake your head.

Indeed...
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No way do I want another disastrous "Credited As" system so that we can argue over whether a studio with one letter capitalized is the same as the exact same studio with the same letter in lower case!

And how is that any different from arguing over the difference between "Twentieth Century Fox" and "Twentieth Century-Fox"?! One of these debates is preferable over the other? I don't think so - they're the exact same thing. Again, I personally don't have a need for a "credited as" system for studios, but if certain people want to track that kind of name variations, then I think that's what they should lobby for.


With a properly designed "linking" system, you would simply enter exactly what you see (as credited) and the linking would be done in the background.  No "Common Name" to argue about at all.

The program would have to include a table which tells it that 20th Century Fox = 20th Century-Fox = Twentieth Century Fox = Twentieth Century-Fox = Twentieth Century Fox Corporation, etc., etc. 

The only thing to argue about is whether 20th Century Fox = Twentieth Century Fox.  These "equivalents" would have to be submitted through the contribution system and voted on by the community.

It's not a difficult system to implement.


Agree. That way we would preserve variants in studio names AND have linking names.
Maybe the old reference thread could be a starting point for these "equivalents"?
-- Enry
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