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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAscended_Saiyan
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Nope.  They ALL sold for less than what it cost to build...all except the Wii. 


What?  Are you kidding me?  Nintendo is actually selling a product for more than it cost to make?  Why, I've never heard of such a thing.  Turning a profit on goods sold...the nerve of some people. 

In the gaming industry, that is not suppose to happen upfront.  History backs this up.
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You must not know about a device called the EyeToy.  It is MORE interactive than the Wii.  You only get to move 1 arm with the Wii.  With the EyeToy you get to move both arms AND legs.  That's MORE interactive.


I know all about the eye toy. For the Wii you move more than one arm and I guess you have not played the Wii fit. But I do like my PS3 also.

Again, I have NOT seen more interactivity in the Wii than the PS2.  And, the PS2 is half the price with TONS more top rated games for it.  That's the bottom line.
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I had the PS2 but I upgrade it to the PS3 and out of the two system the Wii is much more interactive. Untill you own a Wii you will never know how much.
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Nope.  They ALL sold for less than what it cost to build...all except the Wii. 


What?  Are you kidding me?  Nintendo is actually selling a product for more than it cost to make?  Why, I've never heard of such a thing.  Turning a profit on goods sold...the nerve of some people. 

In the gaming industry, that is not suppose to happen upfront.  History backs this up.

I'm sorry - is there some rule written? "Thou shalt not turn a profit from your hardware?"
Just because historically it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it's not allowed!
Does it upset you so much that the general public are finding the Wii a hell of a lot more fun than the PS3 that you have to bad-mouth it?
Why don't you stop being such a fanboy and actually acknowledge the fact that people aren't just interested in one games console? Or would Sony stop sending you the cheques if you did?
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Nope.  They ALL sold for less than what it cost to build...all except the Wii. 


What?  Are you kidding me?  Nintendo is actually selling a product for more than it cost to make?  Why, I've never heard of such a thing.  Turning a profit on goods sold...the nerve of some people. 

In the gaming industry, that is not suppose to happen upfront.  History backs this up.


The price is governed by economics and supply vs demand. If the demand is much higher than the supply then the price rises.. when the supply is ahead of demand then the price will fall.
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You must not know about a device called the EyeToy.  It is MORE interactive than the Wii.  You only get to move 1 arm with the Wii.  With the EyeToy you get to move both arms AND legs.  That's MORE interactive.


I know all about the eye toy. For the Wii you move more than one arm and I guess you have not played the Wii fit. But I do like my PS3 also.

Again, I have NOT seen more interactivity in the Wii than the PS2.  And, the PS2 is half the price with TONS more top rated games for it.  That's the bottom line.


The fact that you don't have a Wii may explain why you haven't seen the interactivity which is possible.
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Can you play Wii Sports on it?  How about Mario Party or Mario Kart?  Super Smash Bros. maybe?  If the answer is 'no', then your statement is meaningless.  If it doesn't play the games people want to play, who cares whether or not it has 'about the same functionality'?  Oh, that's right...because you say they should care. 

That is a BS argument.  I can list a couple THOUSAND games you can't play on the Wii that you CAN play on the PS2...for $125 LESS. 


You seem to have missed the point - Unicus wanted to play those particular games. The fact that you can play some other games is meaningless.
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Nope.  They ALL sold for less than what it cost to build...all except the Wii. 


What?  Are you kidding me?  Nintendo is actually selling a product for more than it cost to make?  Why, I've never heard of such a thing.  Turning a profit on goods sold...the nerve of some people. 

In the gaming industry, that is not suppose to happen upfront.  History backs this up.


So they are bad because they were able to do something that nobody else could do?  What a maroon. 
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Can you play Wii Sports on it?  How about Mario Party or Mario Kart?  Super Smash Bros. maybe?  If the answer is 'no', then your statement is meaningless.  If it doesn't play the games people want to play, who cares whether or not it has 'about the same functionality'?  Oh, that's right...because you say they should care. 

That is a BS argument.  I can list a couple THOUSAND games you can't play on the Wii that you CAN play on the PS2...for $125 LESS. 


You seem to have missed the point - Unicus wanted to play those particular games. The fact that you can play some other games is meaningless.


He always misses that point.  He believes that everybody should own a PS2 because it has the most games.  Whether or not it has the games you want to play is a non-issue.
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Stop the presses!!!

Microsoft should be conceding victory any day now!!!

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There is one thing i wonder about the console wars and all, when you combine the best parts of all consoles it still wouldnt come even close to how good a PC is, how many games it has etc. Console players used to say that you didnt need to install games, and the load times were quicker etc. But that really isnt the case anymore. So what does the console have that you people buy them? Exclusive games?
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Whispering,
This is true. I was a big pc gamer, but the problem I had was staying on top of technology. Video cards are expensive... almost if not more than consoles are. This cost is what got me into consoles.

This thread sounds familiar..... HD-DVD vs Blu-ray.
It's amazing how some people feel the need to push their views on others. I guess it appears that I am a hypocrite as well. 

Why would anyone compare the Wii with the 360 and PS3.  The Wii serves a different base than the other two.  It's funny to see how people view the PS3. Some say that most don't know that they can play movies on the PS3 and others say " you can play games on the PS3?". The only people that I know that own a PS3 bought as a Blu-ray player.

I own a 360 and a Wii. The Wii was a christmas gift from my in-laws It was mostly for my wife, but I enjoy playing it too. I prefer the 360, but not because it is better or has better graphics. I like it because it is something different. I have found that the Wii is a great with groups of people. We took it on a few trips this past year. It served many hours of entertainment. Great with beer too.

I plan on picking up a PS3 later this year, but I don't see myself using it as a gaming console as its primary function. It's online gaming presence not like 360, or at least in my world. First I need to upgrade my receiver. Quite of few new receivers have just entered/entering the market. It's nice to see more than two HDMI inputs on receivers now.
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Whispering,
This is true. I was a big pc gamer, but the problem I had was staying on top of technology. Video cards are expensive... almost if not more than consoles are. This cost is what got me into consoles.


Personally i never try to "keep up" with the best, I usually buy a new video card once every second year, and pay little over 100€ for it. One thing the PC is bad though, you almoust always play "alone in the corner". Where as consoles are in the living room and easily playable by many people at the same time.
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There is one thing i wonder about the console wars and all, when you combine the best parts of all consoles it still wouldnt come even close to how good a PC is, how many games it has etc. Console players used to say that you didnt need to install games, and the load times were quicker etc. But that really isnt the case anymore. So what does the console have that you people buy them? Exclusive games?


For me, I play both console and PC.  But as the years go by I find myself playing on the PC less and less.  The main reason for me is simple convenience.  I really like stretching out on the couch and playing games on my 55" tv.  I know that I could set up my PC to work on the TV and allow me to control it from the couch, but, I haven't found a compelling reason to bother.  My console already does it, and there are only a couple of games that I personally prefer on the PC (especially Morrowind with all the great mods I've collected over the years).
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I had the PS2 but I upgrade it to the PS3 and out of the two system the Wii is much more interactive. Untill you own a Wii you will never know how much.

I have played a Wii.  It's not like I have to own one because the functionality of the unit is so massive or anything.  So, please try to calm down on the dramatics.  My friend up the street owns one.  I've gone through all the functionalities.

The Wii has Wii Fit (board), the Wii-mote, and mic.  That means you are able to swing one arm and shift your body from left to right.  The PS2 has the DDR pad (dancing...not step on step off), EyeToy (swing both arms and kick both legs), mics (for singing) and more games that leverage those features. 

Hmmm, which one has more interactivity?  I wonder...
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Can you play Wii Sports on it?  How about Mario Party or Mario Kart?  Super Smash Bros. maybe?  If the answer is 'no', then your statement is meaningless.  If it doesn't play the games people want to play, who cares whether or not it has 'about the same functionality'?  Oh, that's right...because you say they should care. 

That is a BS argument.  I can list a couple THOUSAND games you can't play on the Wii that you CAN play on the PS2...for $125 LESS. 


You seem to have missed the point - Unicus wanted to play those particular games. The fact that you can play some other games is meaningless.

That's a cop out.  It's just someone trying to justify why their purchase was worthy.  When their is nothing to really justify it, they fall back to the old "I can't play these games on another platform".  That is the underline point you seem to have missed.  You can find similar games on just about every platform that yields a similar experience.  If you are looking for games that are only from Nintendo 1st party developers, then it doesn't matter whether the console has a Wii-mote/Wii-Fit or not.
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