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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 585 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Enrywiki wasn't saying that is what he believed - it's how others behave after he votes. Going back and re-reading through, I see now what he was saying. I missed the sarcasm. I thought he was making it a statement that contributions were personal and this is just the way voting is. My bad, Enry. | | | "Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" - Douglas Bader
"A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools." - Douglas Adams |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kahless: Quote:
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Quoting m.cellophane:
Whoa! I thought I was losing it when that happened to me. (I could still be losing it, but...  ) I experienced that today in FF. My general habit it to view the list of Today's Active Topics and then open tabs for threads I want to check out. I cast a vote today and ended up in a different thread. 
Oh, I'm not alone. This happened to me yesterday using firefox 2.0.0.11. Maybe a cookie issue? Even if you stay in the thread you end up at the top of the thread instead of the post you voted on. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr. Killpatient: Quote:
Sounds like the thread to return to is being stored in your session variables (information held on the server to maintain your browsing experience).
Users who use multiple browsing windows have always been a bane to web developers!  I agree. That's exactly what I think is happening. The work-around of course is to open the voting screen in a separate tab.  | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Vega: Quote:
Quoting pauls42:
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Enrywiki wasn't saying that is what he believed - it's how others behave after he votes.
Going back and re-reading through, I see now what he was saying. I missed the sarcasm. I thought he was making it a statement that contributions were personal and this is just the way voting is. My bad, Enry. No worries, mate.  However, maybe that statement of mine was too much of a generalization. I don't mean to say that everybody behaves that way. But, let's face it, it can get personal. Of course that would be wrong, it goes without saying. Once a user got mad with me in PM because I (among others) turned down his cover image contribution, and my trying to peacefully explain why... just didn't help! I am sure he would have used the red button if he could at the time. On the other hand, the green button could be seen as a sugar lump to reward an "easy" Yes (again: not everybody, but not so uncommon either), and that would be wrong too. On the whole, the Reputation System applied to Contributions might result in even more Yes votes and fewer No votes because of the fear of reactions. Or maybe I am just worrying too much and should have dinner now.  | | | | -- Enry |
|   | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
Quoting Vega:
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Quoting pauls42:
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Enrywiki wasn't saying that is what he believed - it's how others behave after he votes.
Going back and re-reading through, I see now what he was saying. I missed the sarcasm. I thought he was making it a statement that contributions were personal and this is just the way voting is. My bad, Enry.
No worries, mate.
However, maybe that statement of mine was too much of a generalization. I don't mean to say that everybody behaves that way. But, let's face it, it can get personal. Of course that would be wrong, it goes without saying.
Once a user got mad with me in PM because I (among others) turned down his cover image contribution, and my trying to peacefully explain why... just didn't help! I am sure he would have used the red button if he could at the time.
On the other hand, the green button could be seen as a sugar lump to reward an "easy" Yes (again: not everybody, but not so uncommon either), and that would be wrong too.
On the whole, the Reputation System applied to Contributions might result in even more Yes votes and fewer No votes because of the fear of reactions.
Or maybe I am just worrying too much and should have dinner now. I do not think it is a generalization - we have had users openly confess in the forums that if they see a contribution made by "Mr. X" or "Mrs. Y", they will automatically vote no. This - along with the ever-present war going on in the forums, is a clear indication that things have gotten way too personal, and that the focus is not longer on the value of having good (and correct) data. Don't misunderstand me - I am not directing this post at you, Enry (nor my previous agreement with Vega), but rather at the community as a whole, as I feel we all need to reassess our approach to this program and the way we choose to be a part of it. | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away!
True love conquers all! |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | The vote page returns you to the last voteable page you visited, in any tab. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ken,
one thing that isn't clear - unless I missed your clarification in amongst all 28 pages of other posts..
What happens if a rude post is negatively rated and then the original poster reconsiders and changes their original post so all is sweetness and light..
Does the original negative rating remain - and if so, would the original posting still be visible to you so the negative rating was just removed since although it was a correct rating at the time, it no longer is when you come to review it? Or would it just look like a vindictive negative rating and get reversed? | | | | Paul |
| | Registered: March 10, 2007 | | Posts: 4,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes, the original ratings stand, although the raters may choose to reconsider. No, it doesn't look like an incorrect vote to admins, who have access to the original message. | | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,339 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Yes, the original ratings stand, although the raters may choose to reconsider. No, it doesn't look like an incorrect vote to admins, who have access to the original message. excellent... this system looks to be very well thought out.... | | | | -JoN |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Yes, the original ratings stand, although the raters may choose to reconsider. No, it doesn't look like an incorrect vote to admins, who have access to the original message. As Jon said, that's excellent.  | | | | Paul |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Here i sit editing titles madly and patiently waiting for the gift voucher.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 21, 2007 |  Posts: 171 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
Quoting FUBAR:
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Gag me with a spoon. I hope that all this pandering stops really soon.
what do you mean? Is this some sort of Canadian expression?
If you mean that answering queries is pandering, then I'm a little puzzled as o why.. "Gag me with a spoon" is Valley girl speak meaning that I am so sick of something that I would wish to stick a spoon down my throat to get rid of it. Not a pleasant aspect, but preferable to all the overly polite responses we are now seeing. Nobody says anything any longer that can in anyway be misconstrued as being objectionable. If something is written that perhaps might be misinterpreted as offensive then it is accompanied by a smiley face. Or it is prefaced by some pleasantry. There must be a happy medium between, what was, out and out disgraceful behavior, and the namby pamby stuff we are now having to stomach. | | | | Graham |
| | Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 175 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FUBAR: Quote:
Quoting pauls42:
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Quoting FUBAR:
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Gag me with a spoon. I hope that all this pandering stops really soon.
what do you mean? Is this some sort of Canadian expression?
If you mean that answering queries is pandering, then I'm a little puzzled as o why..
"Gag me with a spoon" is Valley girl speak meaning that I am so sick of something that I would wish to stick a spoon down my throat to get rid of it. Not a pleasant aspect, but preferable to all the overly polite responses we are now seeing. Nobody says anything any longer that can in anyway be misconstrued as being objectionable. If something is written that perhaps might be misinterpreted as offensive then it is accompanied by a smiley face. Or it is prefaced by some pleasantry.
There must be a happy medium between, what was, out and out disgraceful behavior, and the namby pamby stuff we are now having to stomach. God rest Frank Zappa. [humms, "She's a Valley Girl..."] | | | | Gotta nip it in the bud, Andy! |
| | Registered: March 23, 2007 | | Posts: 317 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FUBAR: Quote:
There must be a happy medium between, what was, out and out disgraceful behavior, and the namby pamby stuff we are now having to stomach. It will happen, just give it a little time. Stuart | | | This is a sig... ... ... yay...
Don't understand? Maybe DVDProfilerWiki.org does! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,136 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just a quick question... if anyone gets  , do you offer them a job?  | | | Signature? We don't need no stinking... hang on, this has been done... blast [oooh now in Widescreen]
Ah... well you see.... I thought I'd say something more interesting... but cannot think of anything..... oh well
And to those of you who have disabled viewing of these signature files "hello" (or not) Registered: July 27, 2004 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Still waiting for the gift voucher.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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