20 Pages!!! And the Winner is???    

Quoting skipnet50:

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By your comment Lemony Snicket's is NOT part of the title. It's a possessory credit.

Skip

No, not so. I've made it very clear. You fail to understand. First of all Lemony Snicket is a fictitious person, a pseudonym of the book's author. How does a non-person gain possession of anything real, like a film? I agree that Frank Miller's Sin City is the title of the film -- it is copyrighted that way, and the director of the film states the film's title includes Frank Miller possession of it. This is not a credit.

You fail to understand the difference between a title and a credit.

You are the one slinging insult after insult in this thread. You. Every other insult answers yours. I felt insulted by your supidity remark, and I resent it highly.

Your insulting behavior needs to be curtailed or banned.

Quoting 8ballMax:

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20 Pages!!! And the Winner is???    

8ballMax, I suppose we are a little bit overhasty. The thread is not finished yet. So I would bet this thread will last about 25 pages 

God, I hope it is. I am about for whatever will work, I am not about people focusing on a single title to the detriment of everything else. This has been a burr under my saddle for far too long.

I have said I WANT Dan's idea to work and I hope that it will, though I will be nervous about it for awhile, waiting for someone else to throw another shoe. It SOUNDS to me like it should work as long as there aren't any more shoes out there.    

Sorry, guys I am NOT going to apologize for being vocal and opinionated. I don't like user interpretation and NEVER EVER will, I don't like these threads, especially when someone decides to stop discussing ideas and solutions and decides to make me the focus of the discussion. I simply want solutions. If that is too much for you to deal with, I don't know what to say.

Skip

Quoting skipnet50:

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I don't like these threads, especially when someone decides to stop discussing ideas and solutions and decides to make me the focus of the discussion.

So why do you keep doing that?

Quoting Astrakan:

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As someone stated, there are exceptions to every rule. So why do we always have to follow the rules blindly? Why can't we have a civil discussion when those exceptions arise, and through consensus come to a decision as to whether or not the data point in question have to follow the stated rule?

In this particular instance, it would seem that with a strict adherence to the rules the title should indeed be Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds. But considering the current submission has 88% of the voters wanting to use the title The Birds, where is the harm in considering this DVD an exception to the rule?

KM

I understand your point, Astra. There are a number of factors involved. One is that we have a number of users who at any point of departure from the Rules, will point at them and whine. I TRY to be a bit more flexible but have been abused for it when I am, so basically I am damned no matter what I do. One must also remember that if an exception to Rules is allowed, then that becomes a precedent to allow more and more and more and pretty soon we have a mess again. So it is a delicate balancing act.

Even as much i as I absolutely abhor these discussions. What we have toady is far superior to what we had back when you and I started using Profiler, Astra. Back then the Online was a mess which became a disaster. I don't care whose songbook we use as long as it makes sense and we are all using the SAME songbook, and user interpretation in voting or making Contributions should be eliminated as much as possible. Especially in voting its by the book or its not, if user voting becomes the total driving force then why do we need rules. then it just becomes a matter of back to the bad old days until users get tired of voting on the sme crap every week.

Skip

Quoting Peabody:

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Here ya go Max



Now don't go spend it foolishly...like beer or a dvd.

Peabody

Thanks Peabody! Today is DVD release day and it will come in handy    

Quoting skipnet50:

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Sorry, guys I am NOT going to apologize for being vocal and opinionated. I don't like user interpretation and NEVER EVER will, I don't like these threads, especially when someone decides to stop discussing ideas and solutions and decides to make me the focus of the discussion. I simply want solutions. If that is too much for you to deal with, I don't know what to say.

You're a user too, Skip, of a user built database, governed by user built rules. If the majority of users don't like the rules, they can be changed. Preferably to Dan's suggestion.

Earlier you said something about rules being important so users understand the clearest and simplest way of entering data.

Most people, not just DVD collector's, I speak to about films would never say "Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds", because that isn't the damn title!

Northbloke, earlier you played Devil's advocate and asked what is on the cover. My region 2 cover (the crappy Universal release) say's very simply, "The Birds".


The overview starts "Nothing equals The Birds for sheer terror when Alfred Hitchcock ..." which, as someone pointed out earlier, would be different if that wasn't the title.

By the way, hate to mention it, but the speech marks are actually included in the title. Should we ... erm ... nah, forget I mentioned it.