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new flag for cast: credit only
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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I'm concerned about how you would verify that flag set.  Easy enough with a well-known credited name perhaps, but how do you "prove" a negative?


You claim it is so. The same way you state that the movie is 93 minutes long because you measured it with a tool like DVD Decrypter.

I don't think that people would suddenly start to mark everything as "credit only" on a whim. To do that you first have to know how someone looks and than you can determine whether he/she is there or not.

I think it will be unlikely ever used on a movie to begin with. TV Shows are an entirely different beast and I don't need to be a genius to figure out that Erica Durance/Lois Lane wasn't in this week's episode of Smallville.
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I think it will be unlikely ever used on a movie to begin with.

No? There are many movies which credit an actor whose scenes ended up on the cutting room floor. The first examples that spring to mind are Frederick Jaeger and Suzanne Roquette in 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade', for instance...
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You can't.  Just as it's exceedingly difficult currently to remove undocumented uncredited out of a profile, it would be very difficult to add credited but absent, unless it's a local only option.

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People are normally credited with a character name. generally speaking, you can watch and see if that character appears. There may be some difficult cases, but most wouldn't be.
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I think we really need this asap.

For TV Series especially.
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You can have many interesting discussions here. Suppose we have a recurring actor in a TV series who is voice only. If in one epsiode that actor does not "appear", we chan check the "credit only" box, but do you then also check the "voice" box?

And how long before we have a profile with an actor that is both "uncredited" and "credit only"? I am sure that if we discuss this long enough, we can come up with a reason...

But apart from that, I like the idea for such a checkbox. There may be more, like "no vocie" for an actor who appears but doesn't speak. The opportunities are virtually endless.
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But apart from that, I like the idea for such a checkbox. There may be more, like "no vocie" for an actor who appears but doesn't speak. The opportunities are virtually endless.


But in the end you have to weigh in the usage of such a field. How often would such a field be used outside the original silent movies? Even Silent Bob talks at least once in his movies.

But a "credit only" is a usual occurence with TV shows. There's even the rare occurence where the character is there but the actor is not, e.g. when Lucy Lawless broke her leg during her Xena run, Hudson Leick who usually played Callisto took her role via body switch. So there was a Xena in these episodes, it just wasn't the actress from the opening credits.
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Good idea, I'll support it. 


Me too. 
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But apart from that, I like the idea for such a checkbox. There may be more, like "no vocie" for an actor who appears but doesn't speak. The opportunities are virtually endless.


But in the end you have to weigh in the usage of such a field. How often would such a field be used outside the original silent movies? Even Silent Bob talks at least once in his movies.

I should have put in more smileys, I guess.
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Wil Wheaton in the Last Starfighter...he's credited but scenes are deleted. I'd go for this, but agree that you'd use this most in TV series.
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This would be extremely low on my list of priorities, as I don't see myself ever caring if this situation occurs.
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Another example is in "Das doppelte Lottchen" (the original German version of "The Parent Trap" from 1950). The credits have a separate section with "Hansel und Gretel scene" with 5 actors, but the scene itself is cut from the DVD (although I remember seeing it in the TV broadcast some years ago).

EDIT: Oops, memory playing tricks with me. It is actually the 1993 remake "Charlie and Louise" that has the big theatrical end scene missing on the DVD.
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