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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Converting 'C' into 'ç' is inventing data... I disagree with that. As FRANCOIS TRUFFAUD is a french person, you have to read his given name "franssois", not "frankois", so C is converted into ç. It is when you convert it to c that you invent data. | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: I have already given up on that because people are letting their own "interpretations" run wild... I would not say that people let their own interpretation run wild. Most of people just do in dvdprofiler exactly what they do in normal life... So, except for people who invested much time to understand the rules and their oddnesses, normal contributors just do what seems normal for them. The problem is that rules always chose the less intuitive solution. | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: Good evening, Sirs,
tonight I'm interested in the capitalization of the last name DILASCIO (ac, entirely capitalized).
What's the standard?
Love, bbBbb The standard by the book would be Dilascio without further information. DiLascio would be an ssumption per the Rules, a reasonable assumption but an assumption nonetheless and not per the Rules. Based upon the credit we cannot assume that Di is the article Di as there is no spacing to CLEARLY define it as such, Di Lascio for example. More information and documentation would be required to support the article premise. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: That doesn't change the fact that the database does distinguish cases. Though CLT does not. I would have to agree with T!M though, not knowing the actor I would assume nothing and enter it as Dilascio. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,945 |
| Posted: | | | | It is a tough one But if you go strictly by the rules I agree with T!M, Skip and Kinoniki, and would enter it simple as Dilascio. Tho a really reasonable attempt is DiLascio, but would need some documentation cheers Donnie | | | www.tvmaze.com |
| Registered: December 16, 2007 | Posts: 926 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, possibly bbbbb knew what he meant when he started this thread. There are DiLascios, DiMaggios, DiPalmas, DeVitos so it can't be that difficult. So what's the problem? |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with Railroaded and I dasagree that the rules require you to only capitalize the first letter. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 168 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting railroaded: Quote: Well, possibly bbbbb knew what he meant when he started this thread. There are DiLascios, DiMaggios, DiPalmas, DeVitos so it can't be that difficult. So what's the problem? Actually, it CAN be that difficult... My true last name is diFalco, but in cases where I've been forced to enter my last name in caps only, you cannot tell how my name really should be displayed in mixed case. And to complicate matters further, in my early childhood, we used DiFalco as the norm, until a relative had some family history tracing done. Without insider knowledge, you would not know how to correctly convert my last name from all caps to mixed case, so the only enterpretation that could be made for DVDP purposes is simply with a capital D and the remainder in lower case |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Except, for some people, you can find that information. Granted, you can't find it for everyone but, for those you can, they should be entered correctly. Just my humble opinion. But, as James pointed out, my local will ignore this stuff...as will the CLT...so I will always have LeVar, DeVito, etc. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 168 |
| Posted: | | | | Agreed...if you can find out that information, it should be entered with the correct case mix. Then just citing the source of that info is good enough for me. |
| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | I also agree with TheMadMartian & MtnMike. |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: Except, for some people, you can find that information. Granted, you can't find it for everyone but, for those you can, they should be entered correctly. Funny. For Jean-Claude Forest, you had exactly the opposite position. Though it was easy to document the correct information, you considered it should not be entered correctly. | | | Images from movies | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Can we please not turn every single thread into a discussion about JCF. The reasons for why that's different have been given already. |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote: Can we please not turn every single thread into a discussion about JCF. The reasons for why that's different have been given already. I just want to show inconsistencies. Are we allowed, or not, to interpret data when we have proper documentation??? We cannot answer yes or no just as we want. | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote: Except, for some people, you can find that information. Granted, you can't find it for everyone but, for those you can, they should be entered correctly.
Funny. For Jean-Claude Forest, you had exactly the opposite position. Though it was easy to document the correct information, you considered it should not be entered correctly. The difference, that you are conveniently ignoring, is that there was no '-' in the profiler allowed credit for Jean-Claude Forest. I can't add a '-' when one doesn't exist in the credit. The 'I' and 'L' in DILASCIO, are there and I have to convert them to proper case. Quoting surfeur51: Quote: I just want to show inconsistencies. Are we allowed, or not, to interpret data when we have proper documentation??? We cannot answer yes or no just as we want. We all know what you want but, in this case, there are no inconsistencies. You are trying to create one, but it isn't happening. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: I can't add a '-' when one doesn't exist in the credit. It exists in end credits. And more, in this case, CLT results is for J-C, since most contributors choose to correct the typo in front credits. About consistency : you cannot add a "-", but you can decide to convert l to L . Where is the difference ?? : in both cases you interpret data on screen using external documentation. Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: I have already given up on that because people are letting their own "interpretations" run wild... Aren't whining about others doing exactly what you promote for Dilascio ? | | | Images from movies | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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