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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Being called Ms. Wagner just means she doesn't always use her maiden name. Being Natasha G. Wagner would mean Gregson was her middle name. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | No, Ace that is not correct. Typically if a person uses a double barrelled name name then she would be referred to as such in articles. That is highly indicative that she moved her "given" name to the middle slot when she was adopted by Robert Wagner. Sorry, pal. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I definitely agree Skip... that is the way I have always seen it work as well. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 767 |
| Posted: | | | | You are all taking this way too serious. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Here the change to Natasha//Gregson Wagner was accepted. Look: I really don't mind at all which we go - I gave up on striving for "correct" parsing long ago - but it sure would be good if we all went the same way... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Based on t5he available data it needs to be corrected.
Based on what we have seen from Wiki, the user either missed or ignored the critical information that she was not referred to as Ms. Gregson Wagner or Gregson Wagner but as Wagner in the body of the article.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Here the change to Natasha//Gregson Wagner was accepted.
Look: I really don't mind at all which we go - I gave up on striving for "correct" parsing long ago - but it sure would be good if we all went the same way... Unfortunately I have no faith in everyone going the same way in such things. As this is a world wide program and people will do as they see right from where and how they are raised as issues such as this is regional. And just for the plain fact that it is people's names we are dealing with makes it all the harder as there is no wrong way for a name to be (at least here in the US) You can have your name be anything you want... spelling it however you want. Now if we went to a single name field there would be no parsing problems like this. But Ken already vetoed that idea. Next step? Maybe Ken getting something in the rules for parsing... but that would mean some names will be parsed wrong anyway... and I don't have faith everyone would follow it anyway. Say for example Ken decided to go with US standard... and center name(s) in the middle field I have no faith that the regions that don't use the middle name concept will accept such a thing as parts of last names would need to go into middle name field. In this situation I really don't know what the answer could be. But I do agree with Skip that in this particular case we have evidence that the parsing is wrong and it should be fixed. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 400 |
| Posted: | | | | Wow, it seems, i'm the bad guy in this thread. Sorry for my mistakes, i have corrected them (and by the way a few more profiles with the same mistake from other users). | | | Si on n'a pas ce qu'on aime, on doit aimer, ce qu'on a ! |
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Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | So I'm confused. I have a submission to vote on for the German release of Lost Highway. Are we going with Gregson being the middle name? |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting MickySpoon: Quote: Wow, it seems, i'm the bad guy in this thread. Sorry for my mistakes, i have corrected them (and by the way a few more profiles with the same mistake from other users). To be clear: I just showed your contribution to illustrate that Invelos has actually accepted Wikipedia's explanation for parsing it as N//G W. But I started this thread with no real opinion on the matter, and as you can see, the opinions are still very much divided. In any case, I'd like to stress that I wasn't calling you out as "the bad guy" at all. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote: So I'm confused. I have a submission to vote on for the German release of Lost Highway. Are we going with Gregson being the middle name? I have the same probleme with a contribution of "Urban Legend". Is it right to have "Gregson" as middle name? I'm also confused. |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 400 |
| Posted: | | | | Sorry, guys, but i have got a PM of Skip to correct my contributions with the wrong parsing. It seems, the decision is made and Gregson is a middle name. | | | Si on n'a pas ce qu'on aime, on doit aimer, ce qu'on a ! |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Skip doesn't speak for the entire Community & isn't in charge.
As Invelos have previously accepted as 1//2 3 I probably wouldn't change it without further evidence to the contrary. |
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Forget_the_Rest: Quote: Skip doesn't speak for the entire Community & isn't in charge. x10000 Quote: As Invelos have previously accepted as 1//2 3 I probably wouldn't change it without further evidence to the contrary. This makes the most sense. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 400 |
| Posted: | | | | Here is the PM from Skip:
I hope you will correct your error(s) on this name. A thread has been started relative to this actress and you missed some critical information in your Wiki reference, plus there are other references to on the net to her as Ms. Wagner or Wagner, NOT as Gregson Wagner or Ms. Gregson Wagner. The data does have to be correctd and someone will do it, it would look better if you did it yourself.
So, what shall i do? Ignore ? I am caught between two stools. | | | Si on n'a pas ce qu'on aime, on doit aimer, ce qu'on a ! | | | Last edited: by MickySpoon |
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Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,506 |
| Posted: | | | | Just doing a quick search and the vast majority of the results only refer to her as Natasha Gregson Wagner not giving an indication one way or another. I did find a couple of links that show something other than that - 1//2 3 HereHereHere1/2/3 HereHere - Look at the link location It's not as clear cut as some would have us believe. |
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