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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | I certainly agree with many that the edition field has been abused, but this is one of the easiest fields to deal with locally. Just set it and lock it. It's not like credits where there can be a bunch of subtle changes over time. This is pretty much a one and done kind of thing. |
| | Registered: April 7, 2007 |  Posts: 357 |
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The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, AND for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title. My reading of those rules is that there are 2 criteria. 1) Is it one of the standard editions (from the drop down listing)? If it is, so long as you can document why it applies you can add it. 2) Is it a non standard (free text) edition. If so it has to come from the cover AND distinguish between different versions. Happy to be told I am wrong. | | | | Last edited: by Graveworm |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,294 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Patsa: Quote:
I think one of the most ignored phrases in the rules is this one:
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ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title However, in a large discussion on this in the past it was generally agreed (not unanimously by a long way though!) that it is best to put any obvious Edition from the front cover into the profile because, even if there is only one edition at the time, it may be re-released in the future and this would stop the case of a profile only being correct (and potentially locked) then suddenly becoming wrong. | | | | It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,747 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mdnitoil: Quote:
I certainly agree with many that the edition field has been abused, but this is one of the easiest fields to deal with locally. Just set it and lock it. It's not like credits where there can be a bunch of subtle changes over time. This is pretty much a one and done kind of thing. Yes and no. You can only lock the entire title block, including title, edition and original title. I do this since the dawn of time, but when the original titles were introduced I had to enter them myself because the lock prevented an update. I only use the dist trait if I have two different versions of the same movie, e.g. Dune Theatrical & Dune TV cut | | | Karsten
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Voltaire53: Quote:
Quoting Patsa:
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I think one of the most ignored phrases in the rules is this one:
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ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title
However, in a large discussion on this in the past it was generally agreed (not unanimously by a long way though!) that it is best to put any obvious Edition from the front cover into the profile because, even if there is only one edition at the time, it may be re-released in the future and this would stop the case of a profile only being correct (and potentially locked) then suddenly becoming wrong. And another thing I have been told on a few occasions... and is true... rules say... "If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title. " It says that the edition WILL help distinguish between different release.... not that it does currently. just that it will help as in if another release does come out it WILL help. There is nothing in the rules that says it has to be current different releases of the same title. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richierich: Quote:
Difficult Nick  , as the rules do not appear to specify what 'standard' is when it quotes - 'If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box'.
My assumption (dangerous I know) has been that 'standard' meant it was one of the built-in selections in the drop down choice, and therefore I have only ever taken data from the case (box), normally, but not exclusively, on the front cover.
Whether thats 100% right or wrong, I do not know, but it's how I've understood it. I read that sentence in the same way, especially if you consider the sentence before that: Quote:
It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description... Having said that, I guess that "Rental Version" is sort of a standard description on DVD boxes, even if it's not (yet) in the built-in selections.  | | | | -- Enry |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
Having said that, I guess that "Rental Version" is sort of a standard description on DVD boxes, even if it's not (yet) in the built-in selections. It should definitely get introduced into the program, especially since the studios do not use a common name for stating the rental status of their DVDs. I raised that request in the feature request forum numerous times and also drafted a rule proposal at the old inofficial rule forum (back in the days of IVS), but sadly to no avail yet. | | | | Lutz | | | | Last edited: by Darxon |
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