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After seeing those quotes, and seeing the name with the title as a unit on the screen, there is no doubt in my mind that "Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life" is correct. 

A title is more than just the name of a movie.  It also serves to let people know its a specific version or from a specific director or producer.  I can't imagine Cecil B. DeMille's name not appearing above the title of his epic films.  It would be a slap in the face.

Wrong.

The name is above the title.

The title is the title.

But you've decided to rename the title to the title and the name above the title.

No logic whatsoever.

Wrong.

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Junk data is a matter of personal definition, mdnit, which belongs where?

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aka "Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life" - USA (complete title)

Plus Columbia DVD House lists this title as the same in its data base..

At least  I didn't try to name it The Greatest Gift  as it was known before release date..

 

You can't be serious with this proposed title change.......read this:

DGA Article on "A Film by" Credit

See: http://www.dga.org/thedga/cr_gi_wga.php3

"Director Norman Jewison vividly remembers what Frank Capra told him at the historic May 1967 meeting of 53 directors who met to address the subject. "This possessory credit should be important to every director. Once you've earned it, it's more important than anything," Jewison recalled Capra telling him. "I remember Mr. Capra saying, 'My name above the title is more important than anything to me.' And then, of course, he wrote his autobiography called Frank Capra: The Name Above the Title.""



DGA Timeline on Possessory Credits battle wtih WGA

See: http://www.dga.org/news/v28_6/news_pc-timeline.php3

DGA Article on WGA Proposals

See: http://www.dga.org/news/v25_4/news_WGA_proposals.php3

The last article includes this quote from Alfred Hitchcock:

"I consider the possessory use of my name above the title of a film as of extraordinary value to the producing company as well as to myself. Every producing company has informed me that my name has 'box office value' and part of the benefit received by such producing company is the right to use, advertise and exploit my name."

- Alfred Hitchcock

The the film credits or in the 'credits block' on the back cover identify the title as It's a Wonderful Life.

Game over. Withdraw the submission.

After seeing those quotes, and seeing the name with the title as a unit on the screen, there is no doubt in my mind that "Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life" is correct. 

A title is more than just the name of a movie.  It also serves to let people know its a specific version or from a specific director or producer.  I can't imagine Cecil B. DeMille's name not appearing above the title of his epic films.  It would be a slap in the face.

It is a possessory credit. Capra's name appears above the title and he says so. I accept however that some of the strongest beliefs held by human beings are not based on reason. For example, some people honestly believe that the world is flat. The more enlightened of us know that it is a sphere of course but that soesn't stop some from believing that it is flat.

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Who the hell died and made you the title master?  Take your condescending attitude elsewhere.  As for have the guy's name above the title on the screen, where else are you going to put it?  If he wants it up there like that, and his statements clearing show he does, then who are you to say otherwise?  Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean that it isn't legit.

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aka "Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life" - USA (complete title)

Plus Columbia DVD House lists this title as the same in its data base..

At least  I didn't try to name it The Greatest Gift  as it was known before release date..

 

You can't be serious with this proposed title change.......read this:

DGA Article on "A Film by" Credit

See: http://www.dga.org/thedga/cr_gi_wga.php3

"Director Norman Jewison vividly remembers what Frank Capra told him at the historic May 1967 meeting of 53 directors who met to address the subject. "This possessory credit should be important to every director. Once you've earned it, it's more important than anything," Jewison recalled Capra telling him. "I remember Mr. Capra saying, 'My name above the title is more important than anything to me.' And then, of course, he wrote his autobiography called Frank Capra: The Name Above the Title.""



DGA Timeline on Possessory Credits battle wtih WGA

See: http://www.dga.org/news/v28_6/news_pc-timeline.php3

DGA Article on WGA Proposals

See: http://www.dga.org/news/v25_4/news_WGA_proposals.php3

The last article includes this quote from Alfred Hitchcock:

"I consider the possessory use of my name above the title of a film as of extraordinary value to the producing company as well as to myself. Every producing company has informed me that my name has 'box office value' and part of the benefit received by such producing company is the right to use, advertise and exploit my name."

- Alfred Hitchcock

The the film credits or in the 'credits block' on the back cover identify the title as It's a Wonderful Life.

Game over. Withdraw the submission.

After seeing those quotes, and seeing the name with the title as a unit on the screen, there is no doubt in my mind that "Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life" is correct. 

A title is more than just the name of a movie.  It also serves to let people know its a specific version or from a specific director or producer.  I can't imagine Cecil B. DeMille's name not appearing above the title of his epic films.  It would be a slap in the face.

It is a possessory credit. Capra's name appears above the title and he says so. I accept however that some of the strongest beliefs held by human beings are not based on reason. For example, some people honestly believe that the world is flat. The more enlightened of us know that it is a sphere of course but that soesn't stop some from believing that it is flat.

Who the hell died and made you the title master?  Take your condescending attitude elsewhere.  As for have the guy's name above the title on the screen, where else are you going to put it?  If he wants it up there like that, and his statements clearing show he does, then who are you to say otherwise?  Just because YOU don't like it, doesn't mean that it isn't legit.

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I respect people who stand up for themselves and what they believe in a hell of a lot more than I do those who constantly turn the other cheek just to avoid conflict, confrontation, and disagreement.


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Sarcasm, hyperbole, and cynicism are tools of debate, as are logic and reason.  If you don't understand how to use those tools, then you need to learn, or don't participate.  But most of all, learn the difference between a sarcastic or cynical remark or comment and an actual attack; and learn the use hyperbole to illustrate absurdity or silliness.  Most of the problems here, in my opinion, stem from that lack of understanding of those things.

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I am sorry your argument just doesn't make sense to me. WHHERE would the possesive be placed to qualify in your opinion, under the title, to the right or the left of the title, on the back with the title on the front.

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