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How do YOU know that Dona Hardy=Donna Hardy, same is true of all the possibilities for Zajonc. Have you done anything such as comparative screen caps to be certain that you are not dealing with different people using similar names. I suspect you have not. Tim, you have even told me that you aren't willing to go to the trouble of doing screen caps for comparison, do it right or not at all. I want accurate links, good enough is NOT good enough. And as Kevin noted we do not use third party sites, and if you wnat to do that you had better provide more than one.

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It seems to me that an "official" filmography can be used to establish that they are the same person, without having to do screen captures.

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Tim, you have even told me that you aren't willing to go to the trouble of doing screen caps for comparison, do it right or not at all. I want accurate links, good enough is NOT good enough. And as Kevin noted we do not use third party sites, and if you wnat to do that you had better provide more than one.

I'm perfectly willing to do screen caps for comparison - for any names that I link together I try to ascertain beyond reasonable doubt that it concerns the same person. However, when it concerns 18 people in a single profile, I do not intend to spend enormous amounts of times to make screencaps of all of that available to the voters, if that's what you mean. I haven't seen you do that very often, have I?

Furthermore I'd like to point out that this debate is about the Dutch locality profile of 'The Cable Guy', in which both names are entered (by me) AS CREDITED: Dona Hardy and Robert Zajonc. Why do you aim your comments at me, why am I the "bad guy", when I entered both credits "as credited"? Italo Disco is the one who wants to change them, not me. I'd have thought that, for once, you'd be happy with me...

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When it comes to determining common names, what else but third-party sites do you have ?

That's the problem right there. Unless it comes from the actor's official website, I consider all of it suspect.

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1) Not really, I would still go with what he is most commonly credited as name. Real names only work if all contributors know the persons real name.  If you can not determine a commonly credited as name, then I wouldn't make an online common name contribution as it most likely will change when Ken comes out with his tool to look at an actors most commonly credited as name in the DVD Profiler DB.

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So I guess - since I don't want to corrupt my data - I am being punished and can't use the whole program to its fullest.

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Rather than turning this, once again, into a discussion about "common names" in general, could we possibly go back to discussing the two examples at hand? Like lyonsden5 says: it doesn't matter what we pick, as long as we agree on something. So let's pick a "common name" for both, and move on.

Oh, I can see it now.

A thread for each and every time we need to have a stupid common name.

This is getting old really fast.

At some point a few weeks ago someone complained that they were being "unjustly persecuted" (or words to the effect) because they didn't participate fully, due to their wanting different data. So now I feel I'm in the same boat - the common name nonsense is doing nothing but screwing up the database, and - like someone posted earlier about it - will get us back to ping-ponging of profiles. because people aren't going to agree at all about names. The ONLY way this will work is if KEN TELLS US what a person's common name is to be.

So I guess - since I don't want to corrupt my data - I am being punished and can't use the whole program to its fullest.